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Crystal Cell Research

Started by plengo, October 29, 2012, 06:08:15 PM

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mscoffman

Yeah Fausto that patent pending sounds like the way to go. I think you should also think about the next generation device(s),
how to make them better, and how make them as part of a two step process. For example have an existing manufacturer or the Chinese
manufacturer do the "hard" part then have them sent to you for enablement. That way the light might not come on until later.  :)

But If you make e'm work, I'll surely be glad to buy e'm. 

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You also will need to do a patent search to find who has existing claims to your exact technology, poor claims since we haven't seen
them reduced to practice yet. A patent has a "claims" section. That is where you set a "vector" as to what you are attempting to do with
the patent. For example is the patent about batteries, is this about leds, is this about jewelry, etc. A "utility" patent does not have many
claims but prevents someone from copying your exact construction sequence. Sort of a mechanical copyright. It doesn't have to claim
to do any particular thing. The patent office can't help it if your idea of ideal boat anchor happens to looks like a Meg circuit for example.
The normal patent is trying to patent a modification of existing idea space, hence you will need to help the patent office out by showing
how you patent idea fits in with pre-existing patents since those are considered legally valid. Many companies will just wait out your
patent until it expires. But that way you can still get credit in the history books. Of course anyone can sue anyone at any time
for anything, to let a court judge the process thus far was fair.

My idea for a legitimate use of a patent is to have one giant company slow another giant company down
so that company B can't use company A planning and company A's implementation to usurp company A
place in the market place. It in effect forces company B to really complete with company A. It assumes both companies
have intelligence collection, access to funds, access to engineering thought process. A lot of the rest of the ways
patents are used are probably bogus.


:S:MarkSCoffman

jbignes5

I don't believe you need to patent anything unless you want in on the cash generated. Once you release to the public domain it becomes your idea in the public domain. There are a few things you need to do first. Make all video's embedded with date and time and release it all to various public sites like youtube and others. Post it everywhere and anywhere. This will establish that it was released to the public by you and no one can make claims to it. Open source is just that. OPEN. Everyone can make something from it and in the beginning, if it works well, everyone should be able to generate some income from labor.


Getting a patent can also get you put into the National Security list and then you can't do or say anything about it. It can also get tanked very easily when they see your plans.


Like I said once public domain is stated and released no one has rights to it, period. Trying to get it patented will only get you trouble in my opinion and hey I've seen more than one technology go down the drain rather quickly from trying to get it patented. You have plenty of evidence that lead up to your discovery. All of that work was done in the public domain, try to keep it that way.

plengo

Quote from: jbignes5 on August 25, 2014, 02:55:58 PM
I don't believe you need to patent anything unless you want in on the cash generated. Once you release to the public domain it becomes your idea in the public domain. There are a few things you need to do first. Make all video's embedded with date and time and release it all to various public sites like youtube and others. Post it everywhere and anywhere. This will establish that it was released to the public by you and no one can make claims to it. Open source is just that. OPEN. Everyone can make something from it and in the beginning, if it works well, everyone should be able to generate some income from labor.


Getting a patent can also get you put into the National Security list and then you can't do or say anything about it. It can also get tanked very easily when they see your plans.


Like I said once public domain is stated and released no one has rights to it, period. Trying to get it patented will only get you trouble in my opinion and hey I've seen more than one technology go down the drain rather quickly from trying to get it patented. You have plenty of evidence that lead up to your discovery. All of that work was done in the public domain, try to keep it that way.


I do want it on the open domain. My issue is that someone else would patent after reverse engineering and we all will not be able to use as a commercial means.


I do want to make income from it too, after all it is about 5 years research. My idea is making money on PRODUCTS based on the cell not on the cell itself.


National security will be nothing since this is too small and I don't have to state "free energy"' or perpetual motion or "eternal durability".


I am not convinced that making videos and publishing would be all that is necessary for it not be patented anymore. Anyone here for sure? Lawyers?




Allwest

I think that once you have a patent pending you can give permission for  people to try and make it for there personal use, that means that they can not make them for sale to someone else

mscoffman


That's why I think you need to treat it like a paper airplane, don't put too much money into
it but see if it can fly itself. The world is running out of water and inexpensive electricity
can not only solve this problem but will solve it. Let us practice implementing solutions for
this as individuals, if governments won't do it. The first uses for this technology will be for
increasing safety for everyone and the comfort for poor folks around the world, this is
2014 after all. Just like these QEG folks talk about, but with some knowlegable people
implementing. Let us nulify this latest great international investment opportunity.

Can a small canister full of rock crystals (guessing here) *possibly* fix the worlds problems
where 100's of weapon material reactors can't - is this the real world? We intelligent humans
just need to do right stuff.

:S:MarkSCoffman