Crystal Cell Research

[plengo]

Well if you guys are correct about not having a patent and not in danger of being obliged to stop selling my cells, I guess I will make a few products and sell it on ebay.


You guys will be my first clients and let me know if it indeed work as I think it does.


I am looking for ONE more metal supplier that can give me a .1 mm thickness sheet and I am good to manufacture some nice "flash lights" (although they don't flash, only keeps on).


The resin I used is the most expensive of all. I am paying now about $60 per gallon which is very expensive. It is called polydyne 5061. If anyone knows where to get this cheap, let me know. This resin is the same used by artists when embedding things inside a kind of liquid glass stuff.


Another question: I want to start a new thread for serious replicators and researches. Not just getting the cake and eating. I want at least 3 guys with a equipment and desire to test extensively into a progressive point where I am.


I want the documentation of each step so that ALL in a collective mind understand the process and also improve it.


I am not talking about just people reading, I need real doers, at least 3 presenting data. My goal is to start from ZERO, into each step I went and understand the data results and improve it with more chances of improving than just me. 3 guys means at least 10 different ways of testing at once, instead of me testing one formula every 3 months.


I indeed think I got it but I am not sure my monkey science will glue with experts here. It would be great if a chemist is involved.


The equipment is very cheap: old computer, radio shack meter with usb connection (it comes with the software), coffee grinder and simple things. The data collection is of extreme importance, specially the graphs of power output (volts x amps x resistance).




Fausto.

[mscoffman]

The resin I used is the most expensive of all. I am paying now about $60 per gallon which is very expensive. It is called polydyne 5061. If anyone knows where to get this cheap, let me know. This resin is the same used by artists when embedding things inside a kind of liquid glass stuff.


Fausto.

When I google "polydyne 5061"   99% of the referenced websites have a .br country code


In the US the stuff is called castolite resin  castolite.com and creates a kind of lucite plastic that
is both very tough and clear.
What would now be called "maker industries" use this stuff extensively.
One way to reduce costs would be to use standard epoxy resin for most of the device then
use castolite plastic for just the
optical part. Prices for the equivalent stuff here look about the same though.


Products like these lights can be sold at "Maker Faires" that are held once a year in various cities,
again here.


:S:MarkSCoffman

[plengo]

When I google "polydyne 5061"   99% of the referenced websites have a .br country code


In the US the stuff is called castolite resin  castolite.com and creates a kind of lucite plastic that
is both very tough and clear.
What would now be called "maker industries" use this stuff extensively.
One way to reduce costs would be to use standard epoxy resin for most of the device then
use castolite plastic for just the
optical part. Prices for the equivalent stuff here look about the same though.


Products like these lights can be sold at "Maker Faires" that are held once a year in various cities,
again here.


:S:MarkSCoffman

Thank  you very much. It is this kind of help that I desperately need. I am also looking for a kind of metal similar to beer caps can, that little think on the top of beer glass bottles (like this:  https://www.google.com/search?q=beer+tops&tbm=isch&imgil=zewyeZOXgIjtiM%253A%253B-1s71UvZX_XVoM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fthatcleverchick.com%25252Ftag%25252Fnecklace%25252F&source=iu&fir=zewyeZOXgIjtiM%253A%252C-1s71UvZX_XVoM%252C_&usg=__un60324BKTNDj31pXoIjqvCHPj0%3D&sa=X&ei=0_b9U4OECdK6ogT5pIHwAw&ved=0CC0Q9QEwAA&biw=1440&bih=795)


I need to find out what is that metal and where I can find it in bulks. If possible even in a to order manufacturing shapes and thickness.


Fausto.

[mscoffman]

plengo,

Thanks.
If you can use the two step casting process, that supplier may be a repackager in a particular sale's territory. He probably has alternate
resins with altered optical properties for a lower cost. Check with them. Lucite plastic => Polycarbonate plastic like in clear BIC pen barrels.

I would try to go with an initial price of $30 -> $40 a device piece quantity one. This will let people who want one, to get one
but demand quantity production before getting quantity prices. Don't want to price too low initially. EBAY bidding-up is interesting but
you want a fixed price for non-bidding markets.

Please checkout etsy.com as a place to sell products too.

---

checking bottle caps.


:S:MarkSCofffman

[plengo]

plengo,

Thanks.
If you can use the two step casting process, that supplier may be a repackager in a particular sale's territory. He probably has alternate
resins with altered optical properties for a lower cost. Check with them. Lucite plastic => Polycarbonate plastic like in clear BIC pen barrels.

I would try to go with an initial price of $30 -> $40 a device piece quantity one. This will let people who want one, to get one
but demand quantity production before getting quantity prices. Don't want to price too low initially. EBAY bidding-up is interesting but
you want a fixed price for non-bidding markets.

Please checkout etsy.com as a place to sell products too.

---

checking bottle caps.


:S:MarkSCofffman

Thanks again. I don't know yet what price to charge. I was thinking something in the ball park of $20-$30, but to be fair,


WHAT WOULD PEOPLE HERE IN THE FORUM would be willing to pay for a small light of dimensions 3 1/2", 2", 2", rectangle shape with an LED of the possible colors: White, Blue, Orange, Green (the best) and blinking red/green/blue?


The light will be enough to really bother you when sleeping in the night besides your bed (my wife hates them because they are very bright).


Off course the income will be very appreciated for continuing my research.


Fausto.