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Single circuits generate nuclear reactions

Started by Tesla_2006, July 31, 2006, 08:15:00 PM

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xee

@Feynman,
I am confused. Previously you stated that there was enough power in closed loop to melt the carbon. That would take a lot of amps, far more than the milliamps needed to light an LED. Now you are saying you are only getting enough power to light a few LEDs. What happed? Are you no longer able to get the device to generate amps of current in closed loop?

EDIT: There is a type of surge protector called a varistor which is a variable resistor in which the resistance increases with current. If used in the feed back path in a closed loop it might allow regulating the current.

Feynman

I did not say melt the carbon.  Under certain drive conditions (high duty cycle, high amps) the carbon rod gets very hot.    You may be thinking of JLN's experiments, where he actually got pits and what looked like melting of his carbon.  This is simply an effect of high discharge amperage, but this not necessary to generate beta rays.  The magnetic flux is the secret to getting the beta rays.

Yes, the device has self-powered at least once  from my understanding.  This did not 'melt the carbon' , but rather initiated a 'runaway' (with output collector connected directly back to input), maxing out the geiger counter and causing the voltage to quickly climb into the thousands off a small 6V input. The current of this particular run is not known, we only know the voltage was 1500V or higher and the geiger counter was screeching and was far past its measurement ceiling of 1seivert.  Of course the circuit was immediately and deliberately shut down.

Since then, research has generally been conducted using non-self-powering mode.  The highest output current generated under any condition has only been 0.25A. Although we have what appears to be COP>1 in multiple trials (generally, COP=2 to COP=5)... so far,  the current does not scale.  We hit a wall at a quarter amp.  Therein lies the problem, because now we have a serious limit to scalability. Saying we can only run LEDs is just my way of saying we have not figured out how to scale up the current any higher without adding more hardware.  We do not want to build fifty toroids just to run an inverter to power a household appliance. ;)

EDIT
Thanks for the varistor idea, that may be cheaper solution than PWM feedback.

xee

@Feynman,
Thanks for clearing up my confusion. You may not have read my edit since you responded before I posted it. But, using a varistor in the feedback loop may provide self regulation of the current at higher levels.

tinu

Hi all,

There is a lot of excitement around here, isn?t it?  ;)

I suggest, if possible, posting more experimental data ? even crude. Discharging >500J was something I?ve routinely conducted several months ago but on a different setup (magnetic field on but no graphite/carbon involved). However, due to relocation I?m unable to perform such experiments these days. Nonetheless, as comically simple as these experiments are described, it?s hard to buy the overall story. So, the skeptic list will get stronger; I?m still a proud member of it. Hence, enough talk and let?s go to the questions:
1. Some should well realize a beta source giving hundreds of volts multiplied several mA is absolutely lethal. An nW beta source will do it as well. Is anyone experiencing deep skin burns? (Mainly on the face, neck and hands)  Hopefully not!
2.  I doubt a common/cheap Geiger will react to a short beta burst following a single DC discharge with fast rise-time. In case of AC, I agree a Geiger may detect beta but what about the point 1 above?!
3. Is anybody at least considering the use of a photo-film placed inside a thin sheet/envelope of black paper as an irrefutable proof of beta?
4. Burke cell referred to by US Patent # 3,939,366 is flawed and non-workable as advertised; for details please ask, if interested.

I?ll start my own experiments soon. Hopefully, some constructive facts will come out of them. It would be nonetheless helpful to have, from some experimenters, a sign of anomalous behavior, like a mere picture of a ?runaway event? that can not be explained by normal thermal effects. I mean no offense to anybody, but has the EM pulse of such a discharge been properly considered? It may easily damage sensitive electronics (like cameras, computers etc) as it may affect a counter to read 1Sv (which is actually the threshold level for gamma leading most certainly to deterministic health effects; for beta is much worst).

Meanwhile, as I have some knowledge and hands-on experience in radiation, if you have particular questions, let them out. I?ve seen too many question marks that have answers.

Cheers,
Tinu

waterfireho

Hi All

Just noticed the activity on this again finally.
I have been working on this a while and have been in contact with Juan until this year started, haven't been able to get any response from him ???

I have a few circuit issues to deal with for a self runner but they aren't that big of a deal just been on other projects, will go more into the circuit later.

Anyhow according to the info I got from Juan you don't need magnets. Just set up a small continuous magnetic field through the torrid with 12v dc. This sets up the Dipole in the Carbon to align the molecules AND excites the field in the Copper wire to draw the Beta Rays into the wire.

I will dig up the info on Cap value Vs Voltage for the amount of carbon used. Should save you a LOT of trial and Error.

As for the AC output.... When working proper  I think the AC is derived from the BEMF of the torrid between pulses.

As for the picture of his unit... the carbon rods are only 60mm long and shielded by the end plates to keep the Beta in the torrid. The Cap bank is external and not shown. I think the torrids are in parallel as I think he said each one was 6kw.

Now that there is an interest in this again I will dig out the info and continue on with this.

Later
Dave