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Has An Important Property Of Fluids Been Overlooked ?

Started by fletcher, November 16, 2012, 10:23:26 PM

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Aman Shah

I would like to hear Mr. Gianna's views on my above comment.

minnie

Hi,
   I agree, gravity is a force and NOT energy,
                                                                      John.


Aman Shah

Quote from: minnie on December 03, 2012, 08:37:04 AM
Hi,
   I agree, gravity is a force and NOT energy,
                                                                      John.
Mr John,energy is defined as Capacity to do work.
Work done is force times the distance.
Force is mass times the distance.
This shows that work and force are interrelated and inturn force and energy are interrelated.
It's seems like a fiction to hear that gravity is a force and not a energy.
Hence gravity is a source of energy called "gravitational energy" and hence its associated with gravitational force.

johnny874

Quote from: Aman Shah on December 03, 2012, 08:41:17 AM
Mr John,energy is defined as Capacity to do work.
Work done is force times the distance.
Force is mass times the distance.
This shows that work and force are interrelated and inturn force and energy are interrelated.
It's seems like a fiction to hear that gravity is a force and not a energy.
Hence gravity is a source of energy called "gravitational energy" and hence its associated with gravitational force.

  Aman,
A hydro-electric dam is one form of gravity being converted into work. Just as sloar energy and the wind need mediums to convert their potentials into useable energy, so does gravity. Just trying to help you out  ;)

                                                                                                                               Jim

edited to add; Aman, will take a break from posting but will probably read on your blog some. I do expect tinselkoala and his friend pirate88719 to cause me problems for pointing out that their idea was already on a television show. They have accused me of stealing their idea and have asked me to apologize many times for having done so.

Aman Shah

Quote from: johnny874 on December 02, 2012, 11:29:20 AM
  Wikipedia has it wrong. A machine that generates more energy than it consumes would be an over unity device, not a perpetual motion machine.
A perpetual motion machine needs no energy input as it's engineering would allow it to sustain motion without the input of any energy.
Thanks Jim,when different people follow different definations,its very difficult to follow a single defination whichever is correct.
Hence better to mention that its possible to invent a gravity powered engine that does not violate laws of thermodynamics.
What a mess!!!
Name is just given for identification for a system or process,etc.
When Thermodyanamics textbooks and wiki has created confussions within people,it is too difficult to explain the real definations to public.It's better not to take headache to search for the correct defination and advocate the Same defination everywhere.

Quote from: johnny874 on December 03, 2012, 09:51:55 AM
I do expect tinselkoala and his friend pirate88719 to cause me problems for pointing out that their idea was already on a television show. They have accused me of stealing their idea and have asked me to apologize many times for having done so.
I am surprised with this.I know Jim as a good online friend,very dedicated to work at Bessler Wheel Forum.I don't think he will steal an idea like this.Which television show is this?