9/11 truth movement topic

[Dingus Mungus]

Ok Ring, I know his words are a little tin foil hat-ish if you will, but his main point stands. Look at the way people dress, behave, and interact with each other and how it relates to mass media and conditioning. It should be said that I stopped owning a television about 4 years ago. I have no idea what most people are talking about at work, because their lives so closely mirror the television.

You said we are "tearing at the freedoms that the victims themselfs enjoyed and fought to maintain"... WTF? How are we taking away freedoms? Are you not paying attention while typing or are you saying the government is taking them away to control us?

Then you claim the governments courses of action are as follows: "There is two ways of doing that. one is the government can go militant and cast doubt on the people. or it can persue radical terrorists by taking the fight to them at the source."

They have cast doubt on US citizens, patriot act I and II, there are dozens of examples of this. They are following both of your plans thuroughly. As for fighting them "there" so we don't have to fight them here. Thats totally double think, They only want to fight us here because we are there. Do you not see this. Do you believe the Iraqi people respect us for bombing their country for the last 15 years?

We are breeding new terrorists everday we occupy a muslim country. After all if China had bases in Ohio and Kansas while occupying the white house, I too would raise my arms against the threat. Put the shoe on the other foot. Look at things from other angles. I assure you I don't waste time on useless things. This is important for all Americans to see and understand.

~Dingus Mungus

[HopeForHumanity]

Because everyone seems to be talking about the government and stuff, I thought I would add something.

Very few people realize what our true government structure is, and what it was ment to be. The biggest brain wash in history was when they covered up most modern historical talks about our government. It was replaced with "Democracy". Few understand the true definition of Democracy. Before the 1900's Democracy ment Majority rule completely through the people, and it's economic system. Now it means something more like a religion, "Freedom", "Voting", "United States". Might I add that it really means TOTAL AND COMPLETE BULL. They changed the definition. Our intended government was supposed to be called a Constitutional Republic. Republic doesn't have a meaning anymore, but it really does have one. Rule by Law in a Public Matter. Some try to cover it up and call it a "Representative Democracy". TOTAL AND COMPLETE BULL. A representative democracy is just good way to say Democratic Oligarchy, and there hasn't been one of those ever in the history of man, because they always fail. Democracy always fails, and eduacated people would agree because not a single one has braught stability.

We changed from our Constitutional Republic to an Inverted Socialist Federal Republic. Whoever says that our government hasn't changed is ignorant, and has been manipulated. We are not the longest living government, we changed big time. Thats why I have no more respect for most of the United States government, I only have respect for a few officials and our Constitution. 

[nutekk]

HopeForHumanity you are 100% correct!

here is an amazing movie: Riddles in stone
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4854686992345665111&q=RIDDLES+IN+STONE&total=41&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

well worth the watch. It is also fitting for my current post count   

[archon79]

However the end result is allways That we were attacked by terrorists.

The terrorists managed to pull off the attacks because of help from a segment within the US government / intelligence services. Are you willing to consider this?

[Dingus Mungus]

I'm also in complete agreeance woth Hope... And nutekk has got something there, but you have to take that kind of conjecture with a grain of salt. While it is well researched and does contain a lot of unaswered questions it doesn't allow you to assume the answers. As most of those symbols are drawn by children. Think about it... Corn is a national heritage, bearded men (god, santa, honnest abe), stars (twinkle twinkle). Its all far to common to assume anything that elaborate. Some of this stuff is put out there as a distraction.... Entertainment in the most documentry form. Loose change is the same.

But back to Hope for Humanity,

Once people understand that the industrial revolution and great depression were the turning point and do some research about there governments roots, they realize why it changed and who changed it. After you come to grips with that, then you read about false flag terrorism through out history and you realize what the driving force is. Its too scary for some people to deal with, but on a grand scale America is being torn apart and sold to the highest bidder. Double speak and double think runs rampant and debt and fear are the chains that keep us under control.

People need to only look arround and have an open mind and they'll start noticing FACTS, about our past, about our leaders, and about ourselfs, and when they look at the patterns and trends they'll see where we are headed and why we are headed there.

This has gone way off topic and probably doesn't help our cause, but bottom line is the nearly 50% of the accused terrorist were not guilty or died long before 9-11. No new Bin Laden tapes have come out, and the ones that have were debunked as either impersonators or recycled tape. What if the reason no one talks about Osama is because hes only a figment of our imaginations now. He was rushed to a hospital in Dubai where he was met by the CIA in July 2001. I'm not sure he ever left.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html

Mind you thats only theory, but according to many sources Osama would undoubtably be dead by now if he was ever hiding in a cave or running from the military. My point is Osama was a bad guy we created and funded, he did attack us before, but why did we medically treat him? Why not scoop him up in the 4-5 reported times we encountered him between 93-01? Why was he still listed as a CIA asset after the fall of communism in the 80's? It's all so damning. After you see enough of these odd or outright wacky things the US government gets away with, you start to understand why and how.

~Dingus Mungus

Well at least I'm not a nut for believing in OU... Everyone go look at the Linnard Griffin HHO on demand thread. Conclusive replication of a semi closed loop. (evaporation?)