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1850 Watts free energy power ? New GEGENE circuit by JL Naudin shows COP = 2.8

Started by hartiberlin, December 29, 2012, 08:16:11 PM

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MenofFather

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 29, 2012, 08:16:11 PM
Hi All
Jean Louis Naudin is back with a replication of some russian induction heater cookplate
Tesla spiral bifilar coil transformer experiments
where it seems the output power is muchh bigger than the input power.

Here is his website about it:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/indexen.htm

and here is his youtube video about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W2ABWjeTrk

Here are the 2 referenced videos by the Russian experimentors:

http://youtu.be/6rzUnQ4v9z8

http://youtu.be/yT16-togIhw


Now the question is what kind of waveform does one get at the output of such
a flat Tesla spiral coil ?

Especially when the primary input coil in the heater unit is pulsed at high frequency
and the coil that Naudin has built is put into resonance ?

Are the eddy currents going into resonance and extract any heat energy from the environment
with it and convert it to electrical energy so the electrical output energy is higher than the input energy into the cooking plate coil ?

Hopefullythis will not just be any measurement errors again...
But both power meters show 1000 Watts input the one inside the cooker and
the other on the grid line...
Hmm...

Is it really so easy to get 1850 Watts of free electrical power this way ???

What do you think ?

Many thanks.

Regards. Stefan.
In vis video is error in meashurements.
For example take this image http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/images/gegene13gvtg.jpg
From peak to peak is 370 V. So now divide from 2 is 185 V. Now is multiplie 0.7 to give RMs of 24 kiloherc is 129 volts. Now 129 multiplae 0.7 to give  RMS of 50 herc and is 90.65 V
So true RMS is not 131 V, but 91 V. And with curent http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/images/gegene13hcur.jpg is not 14.8 A, but 11 A I calculate. So tru power acording my calculations is 11 x 91=1001 W while input is 1155 W http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/gegene18en.htm
:D


Paul-R

Quote from: MenofFather on May 02, 2017, 02:02:24 PM
Here is corect meashurement metod http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/gegene05en.htm
and here he not get overunity.
:D
The business of using lightmeters and light bulbs seems very unsatisfactory. Why he doesn't use a resistive load and measure the rise in temperature of a tank of water is beyond me.

MenofFather

Quote from: Paul-R on May 03, 2017, 12:13:16 PM
The business of using lightmeters and light bulbs seems very unsatisfactory. Why he doesn't use a resistive load and measure the rise in temperature of a tank of water is beyond me.
Why incorect with light meter? If light meter position same, lamps position same. So lighmeter Must show same value on same power. Naudin set seme lightmeter readings with power from variac and meashure consumption power and with induction and meashure poer and from variac is less power consumption, while lightmeter showing same results. So thats wrong?

Paul-R

Quote from: MenofFather on May 04, 2017, 10:08:23 AM
Why incorect with light meter? If light meter position same, lamps position same. So lighmeter Must show same value on same power. Naudin set seme lightmeter readings with power from variac and meashure consumption power and with induction and meashure poer and from variac is less power consumption, while lightmeter showing same results. So thats wrong?
Light meters are very sensitive to distance (inverse square) and angle to the subject. They must be mounted and bolted in position to show any chance of a dependable result.

Their readings depend on whether they are being used in incident light or invercone mode. The former is pretty much to be ruled out.

It is much better to measure the electrical power in the cable or to use  a resistive load plunged into water and measure the temp increase using standard lab techniques.