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Electron Reversing Device

Started by tinman, January 09, 2013, 06:49:12 AM

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tinman

Quote from: Magluvin on January 13, 2013, 06:59:58 PM
The coils will produce magnetic fields as you pulse it. Those magnetic fields will induce a current in the washer, and not for free.  ;)

Think about a transformer, a step down. Your coils are the primary input and the washer is your output secondary, like in a welding transformer. Well your secondary is shorted all of the time.

Anyways, it would be interesting to see if there is a difference with or without the washer.
3 thing's
1st-i cant get the washer out without distroying the coil,as all the wire is glued in with super glue.
2nd-the washer may also be acting as a bucking coil of sort's.
3-I also think that because the magnetic fields being produced are virtical and not opposed to each other,there would be little to no effect there.
i am going to modify the SG today to gain a higher frequency,and see what happen's there.

Magluvin

Quote from: tinman on January 13, 2013, 07:11:26 PM
3 thing's
1st-i cant get the washer out without distroying the coil,as all the wire is glued in with super glue.
2nd-the washer may also be acting as a bucking coil of sort's.
3-I also think that because the magnetic fields being produced are virtical and not opposed to each other,there would be little to no effect there.
i am going to modify the SG today to gain a higher frequency,and see what happen's there.

Was just making an observation. ;)   There are Tesla coils that use pancake windings as a primary, with the secondary in the middle.

TK's coil might not work the same without the washer in the middle. ;)

Mags

poynt99

Quote from: tinman on January 13, 2013, 05:29:30 PM
.99 Quote:
Although the current may be greatly magnified, the power or energy is not, due to phase changes between the voltage and current through the output diodes.

Dosnt this some how say ohm's law dosnt apply here?
Not at all. But with alternating currents, the phase relationship between voltage and current comes into play. For instance, when driving an inductive load such as you are, the circuit currents and voltages become shifted in phase. Now Ohm's law doesn't apply in the strictest sense, because we can not measure an average or even an RMS voltage and current and multiply them together to obtain power, because this would only give us the apparent power, not the real power. To get the real power, the current and voltage need to be multiplied sample by sample, then averaged.

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The other thing is,if there is no extra power,why do the LED's get brighter?
I must admit though,it seems to be the only answer that fits so far.
If you were able to monitor the power delivered by the battery, the power dissipated by the FG and input circuit, you would most likely see that as the LED's become brighter, there will be a corresponding shift in power from the battery, FG, or input circuit, accounting for the increased dissipation in the LED's.
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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poynt99

tinman,

What is the DC resistance of your pancake coil?

It would be nice to know its inductance as well.
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DreamThinkBuild

Hi Tinman,

Thanks for sharing this circuit.

Is there some kind of capacitive coupling going on in the coil?

If you have a ferrite rod place it in the center and see what happens to the output.

Hi All,

I confess, I cheat a little when it comes to making pancakes actually ribboncake. :)

The easiest way is with ribbon cable, get a toilet paper tube make a slit down the side stick the ribbon through and roll then tape. If you need it bi-filar stick two ribbons on top of each other tape then roll. This may not be the Tesla approved method but it works for me.

Pictured is 26Awg, 100ft, approx: 60turns, 36 strand ribbon cake (not very straight in picture due to me messing around with it).