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RotoVerter Reactive Power Recovery

Started by contempoarts, February 04, 2013, 07:06:34 AM

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contempoarts

Is it possible to recover RotoVerter Reactive Power or not?  Im looking into bedini generator or quanta charger connected with 3ph motor. I'm not very good in electronics but know the basics. People say once you put load on it the resonance stops and you get nothing out. But they probably used regular generator or car alternator. But there are options of generators that don't create a drag. Specially generator with magnets.

Raycathode

Reactive power Have a look at this Russian speaker's full-bridge device it simply recovers reactive power that would otherwise be wast

with this device, once it recovers the energy it parks it in two capacitors that it uses as storage and the dumps it out on each half-cycle
as AC power the problem is unless you know how this circuit and how the components work you won't get it to work and you will damage the device
unless you use the energy as its produced.

Note I for Educational tests the concept does work but the energy produced in the capacitors needs tuning to the load as SCR's only turn off if there is no energy for them to switch off on the output section.

http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-12

Note this device runs at mains frequency and the potential it is lethal for the novice, so DO Not Make it I'm just showing and explaining the concept to you
anything you do here is at your own risk and responsibility and i do not accept any responsibility to any costs or damage to you or anyone else involved.

you have been warned,  8) ;D

Raymondo

WhatIsIt

What about this simple Tesla's circuit?

It has high inductance path S and low inductance path P'.

Where reactive power want to go more?

To go into high inductance path, or to stay in low inductance path,
which is parallel LC resonant tank, C - P'.
Here you can calculate values for C - P' parallel LC resonant circuit, http://www.pronine.ca/lcf.htm.

I think that Tesla solved problem of reactive power, and extraction from LC resonance in one circuit.
What do you think?

Will the one wire output S' disturb the resonance of C - P' , LC resonant tank?
Or you can extract power from resonance this way?
Do you need better usage of reactive power?

If you place ground on output somewhere, does it look familiar?

WhatIsIt

Further reading Tesla observations on this circuit,
I notice that he states at section 3, that
he observed power on output much greater than power on input.

The spark gap is removed to obtain better control over frequency.
In Tesla time there was no signal generators, diodes and oscilloscopes.
Spark gap is method to cover more frequency range as well,
so there is no need for precisely adjusting rotation of big generator for specific frequency.

Tesla statements from page 18:

1. If the rate at which the condensers are
discharged is the same as that at which they are charged,
then, clearly, in the assumed case the condensers do not come into play. 

2. If the rate of discharge be smaller than the rate of charging, then, again, the condensers
cannot play an important part.

3. But if, on the contrary, the rate of discharging is greater than that of charging,
then a succession of rushes of current is obtained. 
It is evident that, if the rate at which the energy is dissipated by the discharge
is very much greater than the rate of supply to the condensers.

Now, the question arises.
Did Tesla guessed what happens in paragraph 3.,
or he observed more energy on output than input?

What the reader think?
Is Tesla a liar, and guessing troll, or he actually did it and states his observations?
He said it is evident!
What does that mean?
Guessing or his observation?

I am curious about your opinion?

WhatIsIt

Could it be more simple?

To solve reactive power issue, resonance, and extracting from resonance,
in one circuit?

And lie about more power on output?

Or, does he lies?

What exactly Tesla's circuit Kapanadze followed,
when he made breakthrough?
Does anyone know?

Why Kapanadze needed high voltage?
Because voltage itself or
because high inductance side of LC resonant circuit to create valve for reactive power?

Maybe Kapanadze also saw this Tesla's statement and decided to follow this path?

Lots of guessing, I think.
But, then, who knows, isn't it?