Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[Charlie_V]

I think it is a little confusing because everyone who talks about it is saying the same thing but with a different interpretation.  Thats what I was talking about when I said a blind man can explain an orange in many different ways, neither of the explanations are wrong yet none will be fully correct - because he will never be able to explain its color. 

I feel that magnetic fields are the backbone of the universe.  They penetrate everything - there is no material known that is not effected by a magnetic field (to some degree).  Whether this magnetic field is the real object or a secondary result of the A vector thing, who knows and does it really matter?  Jon's research definitely supports the idea of the universal backbone, Erfinder's does too but with a different interpretation. 

I personally feel that science is misled in that moving charges are what cause the magnetic field.  I think it is the opposite, it is the magnetic field that moves the charge.  Likewise, the magnetic field inside a permanent magnet does not really come from inside, the metal atoms are aligned in a configuration that "draws" the magnetic field to it (from the outside).

The research I've been doing these past few years deals with alternative ways to manipulate these fields.  I have found that a permanent magnet and a coil have a very special relationship that is not given enough credit.  When the field seen by the coil is changed, the coil reacts to oppose this - common knowledge.  What I find so very fascinating is the fact that the permanent magnet's field is left untouched!  The coil is generating an opposing field unto its own, completely independent (yet coupled) to the magnet - the energy in the magnet's field is not taken!!!  The coil is making it's own field! 

There is so much more to "induction" than what is in the books.  I have found that the electric generator is designed wrong.  The technique used to change the field is completely and totally inefficient and useless!  There is a much better way, one in which the opposition of the coil does not thwart the change.  The new technique I've discovered needs much more testing.  Unfortunately I don't get a lot of time to experiment so it's taking much longer than I had hoped   But if everything continues the way it is going, I would venture to say that a magnet is a device that traps a small amount energy, yet allows one to do work with that energy without ever expending it - a Pandora's box to modern physics. 

[barbosi]

 Charlie_V,

In the very first post, Erfinder2 said the circuit is of a motor (please read).
Then in Reply #80 on: February 16, 2007, 10:57:46 PM: THIS IS NOT A GENERATOR!  It is a machine designed to explain and clarify!

The way I understand, in the same words, the machine is a didactic material (suposedly working) which is a motor (not a generator).
Also, the way I understand, the picture with 4 secondaries and 2 primaries (the first drawing) is a simplified (working) version of the machine presented in Erfinder's last post.

As you know, repeting the words in solving a ridle is part of the solution. Most of the time might sound boring, fruitless, but after a while, lokking to the same thing from another angle, BANG! And it was so simple...

The way I look at the ridle, is that it has 2 components (at least for now).
1. The mechanism.
          1.1 How EMF is built in each coil and what is the interaction between fields (switch=ON)
          1.2 How fields are collapsing and again, what is the interaction between fields (switch=OFF)

2. The measuring system. Is meant to tune the motor to different octaves (and as result, rpm).


Now Charlie if you'd like to help, because I have no experience with electric machines whatsoever, could you please try to explain point no 1. The mechanism? The way you see it. As a motor. If you consider this cannot work, please explain why.
The thead transformed into an educational one, so at this point personaly I would apreciate your thoughts.

Thank you.

[allcanadian]

Here's some info:
Paramagnetic- aluminum,nickel,osimium,oxygen
Diamagnetic- bismuth,carbon,zinc,tin,copper,silver,gold,mercury,water

Triboelectric material:Electrostatic
Most (+)
Air
glass
nylon
paper
cotton
polypropylene
silica
teflon
Most(-)

Here's a thought-
Schauberger said Matter is a TRIPOLAR Mass having (+), (-) and neutral elements, he also said centripital inward flows are cooling and energizing.
- So why is it almost every OU machine runs cool?
- Why did erfinder2 say the BEMF was the dominant force?
I think because the (+)EMF doesn't drive the motor, it is a means to an end, that is to produce a BEMF(-negative) driving force(ie suction-cooling). The (+) EMF is only to disassociate the potentials into (+) and (-) potentials, the (-) potential is then used as the dominant force, always acting inward, take the analogy of the figure skater moving her arms inward and accelerating her spin.
The problem is the potentials must balance, but the flow remains constant, so im guessing from the schematic that the (+)EMF has no interaction with the closed Bfield but the (-) potential moves inward possibly reacting with the diamagnetic core.
From the schematic you will also notice the HV capacitor circuit is in a closed loop with the primary coils and has no route to the negative 12v terminal other than interaction with the secondaries?
On the other hand the secondaries form a switched series connection with the 12v battery.
Another question, where in nature do you see large currents? Answer- Nowhere
Almost all natural and atomic forces are electrostatic in nature, so maybe the Bemf isn't just (-)negative, it's another kind of electricity, negative electrostatic or as many say high voltage. I can tell you from experience conventional current flow acts nothing like high voltage/electrostatic energy, which was exactly what Tesla was working with when he found success.
It seems the more I learn the more I realize schauberger was exaclty right, "Do the opposite of what we do today". I think all fields are electrostatic in nature, conventional physics agree's with this, so why are we obsessed with trying to manipulate these fields with current? Somewhere along the line we missed something VERY important.

I am getting so close I can taste it, But I can't seem to make the jump from shauberger's machines to electromagnetic ones, they are one and the same only the medium is different.

[barbosi]

[EDIT] The picture posted was removed due to some flaws
Please refer to http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,133.msg24510.html#msg24510

How about we take it slice by slice and try to comment with the intent to extract all we could possibly know. Later it will be another slice.

First the machine, later the magic numbers and their corelation.

Here you have a picture with the case "Switch=ON"
What do you think it happens here? strictly currents, fields.

[mkt3920]

quote:  "Our collective understanding of electricity, magnetism, is wrong but I leave this for you all to discover for yourselves.  I have been told that I speak in riddles, this is not my intention, it is next to impossible to share what I have awakened to with people who are not willing to open their minds to newer and better things."

ERfinder,
No disrespect, but "our understanding of electricity..." is what we have and yet we search.  The fact that several of us are chasing this proves we are "willing to open their minds".  Those patents have been available for a long time, yet our way of thinking continues.  Please teach/show us what you see different in them.  It would be a breath of fresh air.
Kent