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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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orosado

Quote from: DigiLab on March 29, 2007, 01:37:22 AM
From the information provided and the way I understand them I?ll give it a try. I apologize in advance if I am wrong somewhere in my interpretation.

Hi DigiLab,

Although the magnet drawing is nice, I believe Erfinder would agree with me that is not a correct interpretation of the magnetic flux inside the magnet. As there are no magnetic straight lines, but vortex curves.

Latelly I have been seeking much about how the magnetic motion vortices near the void. As Erfinder has said, the most important thing for now is figuring out what is the magnetic void. Today I found a link about a book by Howard Johnson that possibly provides a bit of detail how is this motion:

http://www.cheniere.org/books/HoJo/index.html

I found this yesterday: (Scroll down to the section named "Cluster hits the magnetic bull?s-eye", of Jul 18 2006, 03:24 PM)
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t72381.html

Maybe the previous links can provide further insight on the nature of the magnetic void.

I am attaching a set of images I have found on various websites on the subject.

Regards,
Omar

orosado

Hello everyone,

On the topic of the magnetic void, I have read that matter moves away from the void. Maybe this explains the equatorial bulge.

Regards,
Omar

barbosi

@ DigiLab,

Nice to see a simulation on the magnet ring. As Omar said, the flux lines are different, but the current simulators cannot represent but only what they were thought.

Also, about:
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On the 4 points where the magnets are touching, there is a little ?fringing? flux, if I may call it like that, but that?s miniscule compared to magnetic flux inside the formed toroid.

Even with the flux motion as presently "known" by the simulator,  I believe:
As you see, there is a distorsion also at the neutral point of each magnet (Bloch wall). Looking carefuly, you may notice that actualy the flux lines are not perfectly paralel with the curved sides. Hence those ?fringing? flux appear as I said, at the contact points AND at the neutral point.

Bottom line, even wiith the [flaweded by simulator] simulation is shown that the perceivable flux lines are contained in the toroid. As per  ?fringing? flux, I figure that in real life, a magnet manufacturer cannot control the production as he may wish, so I'm convinced the ?fringing? flux will be real too.

What I consider important is to accept (at least for the sake of argument) there are 2 whirlpools bracing eachother but with opposit direction of flow N->S  and S->N and also the new introduced centrifugal [equatorial] flux that appears not to be acknowledged so far because it couldn't be measured/detected.

[@ Omar] The representation in my mind is a combination between Cluster_Animation_L.gif and VortexDetail2.jpg with the mention that first gif doesn't show both currents nor the whirl motion. To be complete, it should have both blue and red flows with opposite directions and this for both up and bottom side of the animation (pressed to the center by the white arrows).
For the VortexDetail2.jpg  it lacks the funnel equatorial shape and overall the "spheric" aspect.

Although we may argue about the distribution and the shape of this centrifugal vortex, I think is safe to say it makes sense its existence.

One other thing that was bearely said and I agree with is that all this complex motion has to be a pulsating one not a continous flow.

What I can intuitively guess (feel) is that the nature of those two magnetic currents is different. One is paramagnetic and the other is diamagnetic(?) Which one is which, in context of charge-discharge... I don't know yet. This is what I feel because the stated property of aluminum "In the aluminium the field sloshes back and forth spilling diamagnetism" and this has to do with interaction of the other fields, resulting the torque.

Regards.
When the Power of Love overcomes the Love of Power, there will be peace.

barbosi

Quote from: orosado on March 29, 2007, 02:44:13 PM
Hello everyone,

On the topic of the magnetic void, I have read that matter moves away from the void. Maybe this explains the equatorial bulge.

Regards,
Omar

I think this was explained as "Concentration" and "Decentration". More details in Walter Russell material I guess.

Regards.
When the Power of Love overcomes the Love of Power, there will be peace.

orosado

Quote from: barbosi on March 29, 2007, 05:13:41 PM
Quote from: orosado on March 29, 2007, 02:44:13 PM
Hello everyone,

On the topic of the magnetic void, I have read that matter moves away from the void. Maybe this explains the equatorial bulge.

Regards,
Omar

I think this was explained as "Concentration" and "Decentration". More details in Walter Russell material I guess.

Regards.

Hello Barbosi,

Yes, you are right it has to be mentioned by Walter Russell. I only have his book called "The Law of One", and not other books which may explain this. I have to get the other books. Thank you for your explanation.

Regards,
Omar