Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[barbosi]

Hi all,

Done a bit of re-reading and some thinking. I'll try to keep it short and eventually split on several postings, to give opportunity for challengers for feedback on specific topics.

Please consider the magnet model presented by Erfinder and shown again by Nat from Russell's works. I think the shape is to simplistic hence wrong. It has to be different at Equator to resemble somehow with platonic solids (ideally a sphere). I'll live here and for people they doubt my statement I can give more reasons. For now, just think and as model you have the attached picture. The vertical spikes are the in-vortex funnels and the middle is the neutral point with the out-going twirls (Equator). I'm not challenging all the model but just the shape at Equator. And this explains the field lines at Equator ALL AROUND, not only two bumps with arbitrary locations.

[barbosi]

I think I chose wrong the words. I meant a sphere is a more simple shape than Russell's. Or maybe the diagram is shown static? the two horizontal funnels are rotating along the Equator? (between "Cancer" and "Capricorn" lines) That would make sense to me.
Again, I don't challenge the Principle, but just the Equator.

Trivialization of this concept: To test North & South field lines, take a magnet bar with iron fillings spread on a paper. The field lines have the same shape if you roll the magnet in such way to expose the every point of Equator to iron fillings. This of course cannot be proved if centrifugal field has nothing to do with the material world. Is this the case?

Examples from nature:
- the apple is round at its equator.
- More drastic but pretty graphic is the tornado and how it looks at the point where implosion becomes explosion (see pictures). Explosion is equally distributed all around not only in two static "trumpets".

Regards.

PS: If this is not relevant for the apparatus principles, just let me know. As comprehension might take some time, I'm curious about other aspects as well.

EDIT:
Just found another Russell representation (third picture) showing the belt like shape at equator

[am1ll3r]

Hello everyone.
I found and interesting link that seems to be in line with this thread.
http://www.vortexscience.com
check out the section under Magnetism...

forgive me if it has been posted before
Thanks,
am1ll3r

[turbosetch]

Don't know if this will make it on the board but here goes. First post here. Have been reading this thread almost since the start as a guest. I have been working on this concept device for 2 weeks with a friend of mine. We have been looking at designs and theorys related to some of this through Teslas work for many years. I for one think there is truth in between the cracks that most people simply step over(hehe).

I have not decided if we will be posting images of the device yet since we are worried about getting beat up on by the smart guys here. We do have a model and I will be happy to share ideas with others that also have a model built.

Since magnets seem to be the main concern I will say that we have used magnets from old MFM hard drives that were full hight models(40 meg models). The magnets within these drives were the right size and dimentions. If they work?? Well that is what we will find out.

The nice thing for myself and my friend working on this is we have very little background in terms of higher education and mainstream teachings. We are rather self taught by our own research with Tesla, Meyl, Eirc Dollard, etc.

By the way I'm wondering how many of you are actually trying to do this experiement to learn and how many are simply here to debate with eachother. It seems to me the point of the information presented was to understand it and build it. Debate and questioning the accuracy of the original poster seems off base. I have chosen to simply believe the possiblity of some thing new or misunderstood.

Point being a simple man like myself has been able to skim plenty of info here to move forward and make progress.  You guys that have been here for while should go back to page 8 and start again in my opinion if you have not already!! Way to much looping going on here I think.

Pehaps simple faith like what you might have for a god is more appropriate when taking a step such as this. It sort of reminds me of the last Jones movie where he had to take a leap of faith to cross the canyon. He took the step and all of a sudden there was perfect clarity.

Anyway nuff said. Great to be here with you guys!! Very exciting times we live in for sure. Love the thread for the most part and can't wait to see whats around the next bend.

[nat1971a]

Hi All,

My impression from russells diagram is along the lines that he was trying to illustrate the concept of how it worked. I dont think it was ever intended to show what it looks like. It's the concepts that are important.

From what I gather the bloch wall actually looks like a cube of some sort

Regards,

N.