Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[turbosetch]

Oro,
      I think I understand and if I am off base why don't you correct me. All the switch represents with its 24 poles are a timing which creates a frequency. Even Er has stated in previous posts here the mechanical aspects of this device are not required. Magents and coils is what he said. As I have been working on this I have been seeing the relations to other designs.

Oro how many of these have you built so far?? I have 2 on the bench now one with some variations. I have one that seems to have a mind of its own and gets angry when you get magnetic fields around it.

I have read this entire thread 3 times now. Where are all the builders it seems we are alone.

In a nut shell I think this model does not have to have a mechanical switch but rather a electronic one. Er speaks of frequency, he also speaks of RPM. 24 points tied together as they are here at a certain RPM which is stated 135 RPM, leads to a frequency of switching which can be duplicated with less energy consuming parts than an actual switch.

One way or another I am trying what I can. Er has left us enough to play with and play is what I will do. I wasn't born smart like some people.

[orosado]

Hello turbosetch,

I am nobody to correct you, but Erfinder has stressed many times that this device is a learning tool, nothing else. Thus, it would be appropiate to construct it faithfully to preserve the lesson being taught. After you have built it once as originally planned, you will be able to learn what is being taught, and then move to the next step. My point is, why complicate things with a timer when you can leave it simple for the purpose of learning. In the end of course you may do as you will, but will you understand the lesson? I know very well this device can run on a timer, I asked Erfinder myself long ago.

I applaud your efforts, but I prefer to do things with a clearer vision. Learning the basics is a part of this. This is why Erfinder has given us bits of information on a step-by-step basis. He genuinely wants us to learn, not replicate blindly.

You have taken the reverse route to learning the lesson present by this device. I am trying to point you to the proper direction, but you seem fixed on doing things your way and not the way the teacher intended. You need to listen to the teacher. The teacher is Erfinder. And he has told us numerous times, not to try to build the device if we don't understand what is going on.

I am in the learning phase just as you are. You probably know more than I do about this. So don't take my advice as a personal offense, I just don't want anybody getting lost on the way. Please be patient and read well what Erfinder has written for us.

Sincerely,
Omar

      I think I understand and if I am off base why don't you correct me. All the switch represents with its 24 poles are a timing which creates a frequency. Even Er has stated in previous posts here the mechanical aspects of this device are not required. Magents and coils is what he said. As I have been working on this I have been seeing the relations to other designs.

Oro how many of these have you built so far?? I have 2 on the bench now one with some variations. I have one that seems to have a mind of its own and gets angry when you get magnetic fields around it.

I have read this entire thread 3 times now. Where are all the builders it seems we are alone.

In a nut shell I think this model does not have to have a mechanical switch but rather a electronic one. Er speaks of frequency, he also speaks of RPM. 24 points tied together as they are here at a certain RPM which is stated 135 RPM, leads to a frequency of switching which can be duplicated with less energy consuming parts than an actual switch.

One way or another I am trying what I can. Er has left us enough to play with and play is what I will do. I wasn't born smart like some people.

[turbosetch]

Omar,
        Fair enough. I, if you cannot tell by now learn from example. When Er says to not build until we understand, that is a problem. This whole thing can be a bit confusing. In one respect the model is to teach yet on the other hand we should understand first.  Honestly I'm kind of sorry I started to post here after weeks of being a fly on the wall.

I'm not sure why most of us are here. I will tell you this much, I'm not here for money, fame, or the quest for free energy. When I wake up in the morning I go to work. I do the same job every day. When I work on projects like this it fills a void inside me. I don't know why I do what I do, perhaps its to understand anything I can.

This sort of discovery science (or whatever) is what makes we want to live. I'm sorry if I was a bit harsh in my last message. Its possible I may never understand what Er or anyone else says he wants to teach but I will wake up every morning and try.

I would say its possible that I am confused as to what the very lesson to be learned is here.

Thanks anyway for the good words.

[orosado]

Hello turbosetch,

I understand what you are saying more than you know. I myself am a wage slave, and I also learn by exploration. But throughtout the years I have learned to tame my exploratory nature, and follow instructions, just because it is a shorter path to a goal.

Like yourself, I only research this technology because of an inner calling. I want to prove scientifically, for myself at least, that God exists. I know such a thing as free energy does not exist, there is only a conversion of energy. And that energy comes directly from God. I tell you this as an ex-atheist who discovered that life is too grand to be a coincidence.

Sincerly,
Omar

Omar,
        Fair enough. I, if you cannot tell by now learn from example. When Er says to not build until we understand, that is a problem. This whole thing can be a bit confusing. In one respect the model is to teach yet on the other hand we should understand first.  Honestly I'm kind of sorry I started to post here after weeks of being a fly on the wall.

I'm not sure why most of us are here. I will tell you this much, I'm not here for money, fame, or the quest for free energy. When I wake up in the morning I go to work. I do the same job every day. When I work on projects like this it fills a void inside me. I don't know why I do what I do, perhaps its to understand anything I can.

This sort of discovery science (or whatever) is what makes we want to live. I'm sorry if I was a bit harsh in my last message. Its possible I may never understand what Er or anyone else says he wants to teach but I will wake up every morning and try.

I would say its possible that I am confused as to what the very lesson to be learned is here.

Thanks anyway for the good words.

[barbosi]

Hi turbosetch,

I appreciate your tenacity on building things and I have an idea that might suit all of us in our search (it serves also the principle ?receive for regiving?).
What do you say to save your current work for later when we all have a better understanding and meanwhile using your craftsmanship try and build much simple things. I say simple for simple concepts although I am convinced the construction itself might be challenging. We all know we need to understand Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder and I think very few of us (if any) built one. Myself I wish to have one to play with and to find answers to questions. It looks impossible that two iron pieces can hold indefinitely together without glue and no additional energy applied to them and in top of this to produce energy. It is not much energy delivered hence ordinary people and scientists have no look at this. But this is a perpetuum mobile.
If you find intriguing enough this simple device and you have the will and materials to build it, I personally would consider sharing this experience with us more relevant and helpful than many other sites that published successful replications. The reason is you could give feedback in almost real time to any question we may have and together we can have a common understanding on the principles.
Reference:
http://www.leedskalnin.com/
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/emery.htm
http://www.keelynet.com/unclass/magcurnt.txt

In essence all you need is:
iron or soft steel bar one and one half inch in diameter (see references for details)
two aluminum spools six inches long and big enough for the bar to go in, with 1500 turns of 16 gauge insulated copper wire.
a car battery

See for yourself if this Perpetual Motion Holder is real and let us know how it performs. Questions will follow for sure.

What do you say can you help us?

Regards.

PS: I recommend everyone the movie ?The Prestige? about Tesla as an episodic appearance but with his role (discovery) at the core of the play. I've seen it 3 times now and I still got the feeling I didn't get all the messages. David Bowie is playing Tesla's character.