Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[satyoda]

Hello again,

I have gone back on al the post from erfinder and read the patents again.

here are the quotes from Erfinder: in bold text

Concentrate on Field stress
Fields produce currents
induction with out magnetic field, dielectric stress maybe
it concentrate fields and conduct fields
EMF is going against the current BEMF is going with it
BEMF is not resisted it is assisted
In the NEW STANDARD we find that fields can produce motion with out force when we design our machine to follow the field flow back to the void (in this case the cap and source power)(the BEMF field)(this would mean that the BEMF field move faster then the EMF field)
The fields are not 90 degrees out of phase in the conventional sense (The fields upon each other are 90 out of phase for example take two bar magnets and line one up to north and south now move the second one with its north to the neutral of the first one.

EMF =Paramagnetisim=pos
BEMF=diamagnetisem=neg

N<-P<-P Positive charge attracts positive charge and expels negative discharge
N<-N->P Negative discharge repels both negative discharge and positive charge

So if magnetic fields are 90 degree out of phase we have a stress field if we would see this as a capacitor the air between the magnets or plates is the dielectricum, dielectric stress


only a little force would be needed to start the process of rotation each time the rotating neg is in line with the void we would have the maximum BEMF
Because the BEMF go's faster the rotation will speed up in order to control the speed at the so called sweet spot we would have to increase resistance the part is not drawn as this is showing only the principle.(see patent 568,178 fig. 3)
nobody is wondering why this was drawn this way, it would be easy to draw a straight line to the coils.

the field in the rotor will go back and forward spilling BEMF in to the stationary coils the BEMF from both are conducting

regarding to what tesla said about close upon each other he could also mean that their is no air between the two coils
see his patent no 557,671 line 20

It has heretofore been shown by me that the efficiency and practicability of such devices are very greatly enhanced by the exclusion of air or gas from the dielectric separating the conductor or remote proportions of the same conductor


Erfinder said the sun is cold

their for only the air is warm  air in the device would make it heat up and it would lose its efficiency

I am sorry for my English and it also hard to follow at some time sins English is not my mother language
but I will give my best


regards

[Trump]

I told you all there is more to this then any of you have ever imagined, but before we can take a walk on the wild side and begin to experience truth, you must change your thinking! Erfinder.

Ok, so we need to change our thinking, It seems that everyone has talked this patent to death. What else can we do to change our thinking of how to evaluate the Patent? Is the rational being used off track for this Patent? Is it the idea that we need to realize why things happen in this patent and not how they happen?


Trump

[lancaIV]

Hello ErFinder,
Nikola Tesla was good enough,
but without the help from Karl Steinmetz: industrial never accepted !

It seems,for me, that Franco Jakelj developed this "unvollendete" work to
a practical machine !

Sincerely
            de Lan?a

[midnight_blue]

Hello all,

      I suggest we break the patent down by key sections until we have covered the entire patent. Now granted alot of it has been discussed, but we need to be as one. Therefore we should discuss each section until we all can confirm as 1 answer. And by the way Mainstream to the back burner. Any one object? Or see a need for a different approach?

Regards,
midnight blue

[Maximumgravity1]

Ok, made it back from out of town this weekend.  I started working on my latest diagrams below when ERFINDER posted.  I need to think on his comments some more, so I may revise these as I think about it, but for now let me post what I have.

I went ahead and completed my steps in my original drawing, and have the fields fully energized in both phases of AC current.  But this got me thinking, there is something more going on, as the in-between steps are missing.  See the first two sequences below.

If we break this unit apart - and for the time being, forget the armature - as I believe in the end we will discover its primary purpose is to rotate - thus making the "MOTOR part" of this apparatus.  There may be a few surprises in store, but for now - lets forget it.

So as ERFINDER previously stated, we could arrange these coils in a linear fashion.  So this is what I did.  I think it might remove some of the confusion, as the circuit now appears a bit more straight forward.  See "Straight Fields1.jpg" below.

So now, I have a feeling about this, and I believe brnbrade and allcanadian are skirting around this issue, and it seems to be prevalent in many other writings, as well as about the only thing we haven't laid out in plain terms - so let me try to talk through this:

If we take for a given that a single wire can have multiple charges, fields, potentials, flows - whatever - in it at the same time, and relative only to their own originating source, then we should assume that all these capacitive actions are going to be cumulative, and dwell in the coils simultaneously - due to overlap until their individual "oscillations" diminish, or until a strong enough force overcomes the first to remove it, or render it inconsequential.

So, if we assume that the primary E induces a charge into F, we will have a continual oscillation between flows of the AC through the primary, and ultimately an identical flow through the secondary.  The animation below titled "Series Animation1.gif" would be what we would see in the secondaries upon each oscillation of the AC current.

Now, what is not pictured, is sort of eluded to in ERFINDERS last posting (as I understand it).  That would be as soon as the primary field collapses, and ultimately the secondary, the core (presumably the "conductor" in erfinders post) "re-energizes" the secondary in step-up fashion, and as seen as the high potential electrostatic field with alternate polarity from what it first was. I can't get verification on this, and maybe missing something, but I believe that polarity is strength ed by the equally high electrostatic potential in the condenser, as the condenser is now "balancing" the secondary.

The net result is pictured in the second animation (Seres Animation2.gif).  After thinking through ERFINDER'S post a bit, it would seem to me that since the secondaries are now energized with the opposite polarity, this would be the same polarity that will be induced through the primary.  This should add to the "A-core" secondaries, and reverse the "B-core" secondaries.  This seems to have a "kicker" or "booster" effect on the potential in the "A" secondaries.  This potential will be continually oscillating through the capacitor, the core, and the primary, and continually manifesting itself as radiant energy (or radiant electrostatic charge), but should continue to build and boost the potential until the dielectric is over come in the condenser.