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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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Charlie_V


        I hope we will all learn together Charlie, I think that's what Erfinder wants also. I think just by sticking together and going through this patent like Midnight Blue stated will workout for the best, so we can all learn together. You may be way ahead of some of us in the knowledge Charlie, but we all need to understand things. Seems Erfinder comes up and adds some items to get us back on track.


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brnbrade

"Maximumgravity1"

To animation of the "Maximumgravity1" would be already enough to generate a lot of alternate electric power.

Only to put coils among the alternating ones.
More believes that ERFINDER wants teach more. he wants to explain the grounds.
I learned very here, more than in High School.

Thanks!!

bocas

Here's another way to look at Maximumgravity1's diagram.

bocas

From Steinmetz's Lecture on "Electric Discharges, Waves and Impulses, and other Transients"  Thanks Barbosi .

The magnetic field of the circuit is proportional to the current (i) with a proportionality factor of, L, which is called the inductance of the circuit.   Magnetic field = Li

The Dielectric field is proportional to the voltage with a proportionality factor, C, which is called the Capacity of the circuit.

The magnetic field represents stored energy.  To produce it, power, must therefore be supplied by the circuit.  Since power is current times voltage, p = ei.

The dielectric field represents stored energy.  To produce it, power, must therefore be supplied by the circuit.  Since power is current times voltage, p = ie.


allcanadian

Oh Boy , have we been on the wrong track, I imagine erfinder has been getting quite a chuckle out of this from day one. We have read so much into this it's become a monster, jumping to conclusions from the beginning. So I will start with our first mistake.
1) This motor can run on AC or DC.
Yes it can, but not as depicted in the patent, everyone has assumed the input was AC or DC converted to AC. We then started on an endless rant into phase relationships, capacitance, reactance ect... . What we missed was the simple fact that erfinders machine uses an impulsive DC input. Tesla was working with impulse DC inputs, so why would we automatically assume this is AC. I believe the input here was meant to be a timed DC impulse current, switched DC or rectified AC, which clarifies a lot of things.

2)If statement (1) is correct then this motor patent 464444 is nothing more than the equivalent of EV gray's conversion element, that is a simple means to transform DC current into pure electrostatic potential. EV gray used an single electrostatic impulse to fire his motor coils, Tesla used a secondary circuit with a capacitor to transform the single electrostatic impulse into an "alternating electrostatic" impulse or AC.

Thats it, thats all there is.
Tesla used a single DC impulse through the primary coils to produce alternating electrostatic potential (high voltage/high frequency) in the secondaries, the secondaries being the driving force.

Here is what erfinder said to finally clarify this.
The capacitor and the secondary windings are to be seen as one unit, one system! The coupling of the secondary windings with capacitor produces a special capacitor! It should be understood that when the magnetic field of the primary collapses, a unidirectional (direct current in the form of a penetrating radiation) radiation is emitted from the conductor, this radiation is absorbed by the secondary and manifests as a high potential electrostatic field. What should be noted is that the polarity of the the secondary windings alternate! This is important as it shows us how a unidirectional (direct current) electrostatic field potential is transformed into an alternating one!!!


I attached a picture of the mystery circuit we are having so much trouble with, this could be seen as one stator from the motor patent. The red primary is switched DC or an "impulse current" this produces a large Bemf or electrical cavitation when the magnetic field collapses, a means to an end. The Bemf produces a large electrostatic potential on the blue secondary which starts alternating polarity because of the capacitor in series. You simply add more primaries and secondaries to produce the motor shown in patent 464444. The function of the primary and secondary coil orientations does nothing more than any other AC motor, that is to produce a rotating electrostatic field. I think the capacitor and secondary coil capacitance form the basis for the high frequency oscillations in the secondary system as well.

So we have somehow jumped to so many conclusions that a simple motor has taken on a life of it's own. My turning point was from midnight_blues post on a link to the magneto-dielectric wave, which led me to the four qudrant electrical theory. This four quadrant theory explains everthing, we should be using impulse-oscillation current and not just AC-DC.
What has not been mentioned directly, and is impotant I believe is the oscillations in the secondaries. Erfinder said "It should be understood that when the magnetic field of the primary collapses, a unidirectional (direct current in the form of a penetrating radiation) radiation is emitted from the conductor, this radiation is absorbed by the secondary and manifests as a high potential electrostatic field."
While erfinder mentions that the electrostatic potential in the secondaries "alternates", that is alternates polarities, I think there may also be high frequency oscillations between the coil capacitance and the capacitor, these being very different than conventional AC. I may be reading more into this than I should but Tesla made some reference to this.
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