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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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Maximumgravity1

Alright, after reading through the last three pages three times, it is finally begining to make some sense.

Can someone define:
EMF & BEMF in modern and Tesla terms.

I know we discused this before, but it might help to take a fresh-approach look at it.

BTW Charlie - you finally wrote something I could understand on first read through - with the exception of the Rosie O'Donnel post, of course - LOL  BUt I do have a question, if the rotor starts to move when the coil is in "suction" or "low pressure" what exactly is happening?  Since the rotor coils are not powered, nor are they drawing from a potential (that we know of) how are low pressure secondaries causing the rotor to turn?  What is causing the rotor to turn?  Is it the pull from the primary (or the capacitor in our case) through the scondaries? 

EDIT: As a side note, before any more confusion spreads from allcanadian's original typo - this is patent 464,666 - not 464,444.  Might cause someone just surfing through some confusion.

Maximumgravity1

Last thought before lunch is over....

Quote from: allcanadianOscillating is not alternating, an oscillating wave is a compression/expansion like a sound wave in air, where alternating waves are like ocean waves.

explains....


Quote from: ErfinderElectricity on the other hand moves in two directions simultaneously!  These two opposite directions are opposite to one another meaning they travel 180 degrees from the neutral point dividing them!  One direction is the direction of compression, and the other is the direction of expansion.  What must be visualized is that these two can move in the same forward direction and still be moving in opposite directions!  How?  Dual Vortex!!!  One small vortex moving in one direction through a larger moving in the opposite direction, the larger is expelled from the smaller!!!

nat1971a

Hi All,

I thought I would mention a reference in regards to longitudal waves reaching a speed of 1.6 x the speed of light.

Reference Meyl - Scalar Waves. Page 203

"Tesla further had proven with this technology the mentioned proof concerning the
existence of longitudinal electromagnetic waves.......... Important is also the measurement of the velocity of propagation, and that isn't constant from the start for a wave, which oscillates in the direction of propagation. From the research of earthquakes we know, that the longitudinal waves are faster than the as well occurring transverse waves.....Tesla calculates for his wave a speed 1.6 times the speed of light assuming the polar radius of the earth to be 6363 km."

Cheers

N.



Trump

Hum,

Need to take in some of this again. Thanks Charlie for confusing me again,  Kidding OK ! I like the fact that you explain things in detail. The spring and the primary and secondary and the tuning. I guess the tuning is something that I need to get clarified, as this has been a topic before and was not really clarified,  maybe the tuning is set up when the coils are wound?  To me the tuning must have something to do with the capacitor resistance?

PS: Charlie, just a side question, are you making a motor? if so what is it? hope it is ok to ask?


Trump

allcanadian

I think electrostatic waves moving at 1.6 times the speed of light drives this device, imagine teslas spring and mass analogy. The weight moves down 1 unit (speed of light) but moves up 1.6 units (electrostatic wave speed), so we can gain 0.5 units per cycle only because the EM going in comes out as something else, a transformation
As erfinder said, understand this first, then build. Which is a good point, all your calculations and tuning are useless if the secondaries act nothing like we know of.

I have considered something else after Charlie_V mentioned heat as atomic collisions.
Victor scauberger said suction flows are cold ordered flows, and it is not well known but victors machines are driven by electrostatic forces. Everyone on the net assumed the obvious, vortex mechanical compression, which is not even remotely close to what victor does. His machines are made of diamagnetic materials,copper-aluminum-gold   catalysts, the positive inducing a cold ordered negative electrostatic charge. The vortex ensures an ordered unhindered flow. Victor also said, no device can perform work without a temperature gradient, and he tells us how to do it , all of his machines have an internal suction or vacuum from inlet to outlet, there is no pressure only suction, unhindered acceleration in a vacuum.
So if EM energy and heat are lossy systems always losing energy to the environment, because they are chaotic unordered flows.
longitudinal electrostatic (radiant) waves and cold pull energy in from the environment, because they are ordered flows.

There are many references stating that heat is the lowest form of energy as well, making cold a higher form of energy. So this could mean EM waves are a lower form or quality of energy that a higher state radiant wave. This is opposite to the mainstream view which is no surprise to me, and it may relate to entropy. This IS the second law of thermodynamics, that energy is always radiating away from any system.
So this machine and others defy entropy by always using ordered cold flows to draw its energy inward, reverse entropy.

Still trying to put all this together and guessing.
I need some input here guys, everytime you comment I seem to stumble onto something new.
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