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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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Charlie_V

  Welcome back Charlie  :o. Hope you did not mean that the postings were arguments, maybe just discussions. I need to take off in the morning and head for Florida to deliver a Motorcycle for my friend, I will take the patents with me to read over them again. When we all agree in what this capacitor charge is all about I think it will help everyone understand most of Tesla's patents as  he uses the capacitor in a lot of the patents.


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Charlie_V

QuoteWater hammer (or, more generally, fluid hammer) is a pressure surge or wave caused by the kinetic energy of a fluid in motion when it is forced to stop or change direction suddenly. It depends on the fluid compressibility where there are sudden changes in pressure. For example, if a valve is closed suddenly at an end of a pipeline system a water hammer wave propagates in the pipe. Moving water in a pipe has kinetic energy proportional to the mass of the water in a given volume times the square of the velocity of the water.

Wikipedia's definition of a water hammer.  Water is considered incompressible.  Tesla refers to electricity as an incompressible fluid.  Perhaps there is something to this. 

Mass is associated with kinetic energy.  Tesla said that an inductor was the equivalent to the mass (in his spring analogy).  Thus, the secondary, being composed of a coil of very large inductance (very large mass), is set by the oscillations of the primary to produce a very large movement.  When this movement is suddenly changed (as such when the current in the primary changes direction or is broken) this produces a very large force (aka electrostatic charge). 

There are many ways to describe why the size of the capacitor shrinks as the frequency increases.  Lets assume that the inductance is left constant.  It is easy to see that a large mass can achieve the same distance in its vibrational movement if the spring attached to it is made more loose as the frequency is increased. 

So lets assume a large mass is attached to a slightly stiff spring.  At resonance, the spring will be moving a total distance of X (the total difference between left and right maximums).  As we increase the frequency and leave the spring's stiffness fixed, we see the distance of X reduces.  In order to regain the original value of X, we need to decrease the stiffness of the spring (making it more loose).

Why is it so important that we keep the distance between maximum points the same?  We want to achieve the largest momentum (the greatest kinetic energy) in our secondary.  If we made the spring too loose or too stiff (with our fixed mass at a particular frequency), then the distance the mass travels would be reduced and thus we would be losing our momentum.  Instead, we would be storing some of it in the spring.  We don't want to store it in the spring, we want to store it in the movement of the mass - this is our goal, I'm pretty sure. 

By having a large momentum, when the movement of the mass changes, it will produce a huge force.  We want a strong water hammer, not a wimpy one! 

I'm just using logic here.  But I'm not exactly sure how this "water hammer" can be used to increase the energy in the system.... UNLESS!!!??  If we had a source of momentum that could not be diminished - except through the slow decay of time.  This source would also need two poles.

If the inductor is like a mass, then a permanent magnet is an equivalent of a mass in motion.  A very large mass in motion - yet this mass is not changing directions, so no "water hammer" effect can be produced.  Interesting enough, a permanent magnet also has two directions.  It is a DC flow with half the movement in one direction (a circular motion) and the other half in the opposite circular direction (like two spinning, interlocked gears). 

Now if we used our moving mass to interact with the spinning gears, we could get a boost to the movement in both directions.  Assuming that our gears are attached at the center by a pivot point (or axial), as the mass moves past them, it gains a boost from their DC flow while causing the entire gear system to rotate.  I've tried to illustrate this in my attached drawing. 

If there is any other way to boost the momentum of our mass, let me know Erfinder.

Regards,
Charlie

bocas

Charlie_V:
"I really think new names need to be given to the "positive charge" and "negative discharge" terms."
Look at "positive charge" as electricity and "negative discharge" as magnetism.  That is from Walter Russell.

barbosi

Tesla's preferred BEMF circuit.
Motor M has its own inductance, so the power supply A and B doesn't get short circuit.

Edit: Added second picture.
When the Power of Love overcomes the Love of Power, there will be peace.

Charlie_V

Nice picture barbosi,

I'm not sure which polarity terminal A or B is (I suppose it doesn't really matter), but notice how during one cycle (when the switch is opened) the capacitor is charging, and in the next cycle (when the switch closes) the capacitor discharges through the coil and does not return to A.  Very interesting how the circuit is incomplete. 

Erfinder's circuit does the same thing, only he uses the secondary to drive the motor M instead of florescent bulbs.  I like it!