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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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Grumpy

Neon bulb - just read somewhere that they can detect scalar fields - not sure how.

So, your circuit energizes the primary through the relay coil and then shorts it and the relay.  Dumps the back emf to ground.

If you connect the primary separate from the relay coil you can use the relay as an oscillator (use NO and NC contacts).
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louis

@grumpy.
the relay is used only for its contacts, which are the equivalent of the brushes K and G in the tesla patent 568,177.
asuuming relay contacts are made ( short circuit)
then current flows from battery terminal + through big coil and then through relay contacts to battery - terminal.
building up magnetic field in the big coil.
after a while relay contacts open, interupting power through big coil.
field collapses and the ( back emf spike ) has nowhere to go except through primary and capacitor. thus charging the cap with the big back emf.
the primary is essentially a short length of copper wire, and if you view it as such at this moment then the cap is where it will go.
i think this is what erfinder was pointing out about how tesla charges capacitors.
then whole process repeats, a while later when contacts close again.

my 556 timer and the relay contacts are equivalent of teslas circuit controller parts G,H,K
my big coil  is equivalent of teslas motor windings D,F.


brnbrade

Hi all.  :D

More discovered of ERFINDER.! It this disappeared.

Discovering more on tesla well clear so that let us can in moving them ahead.

I say: Tesla used high voltage in all its devices because?

Simple, to create electrecity a tension is basic.

It is the force that moves electric chains. A potential difference allows a flow. As in loading them of capacitors of tesla.

It made a polarization of loads to create a tension.

This tension allows to open the pipes current to flow it as in the water pipes.

This can be newness for did not you, more in such a way in a common magneto as in one cell, the basic one to create and to flow one current is to create a potential (tension).
This exactly a potential difference.
In the waves sine it is only possible with mechanical turn where they reach a minimum and a maximum between North Pole and south.
In cells is possible differences between used metals and acid the reactive elements type. Also for the capacitive elements as capacitors. As leiden Jar. Static power system. Oh!!  :o


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bocas

593,138 - Electrical Transformer

?If the rate at which a current traverses the circuit, including the coil, be one hundred and eighty-five thousand
miles per second, then a frequency of nine hundred and twenty-five per second would maintain nine hundred
and twenty-five stationary waves in a circuit one hundred and eighty-five thousand miles long, and each wave
would be two hundred miles in length. For such a frequency I should use a secondary fifty miles in length, so
that at one terminal the potential would be zero and at the other maximum."

I thought I would work this formula backwards from Erfinder's secondary length of 144 inches.  This is what I
came up with.

144 inches = 1/4 wavelength
144 inches = 12 feet
12 feet * 4 = full wavelength
48 feet / 1 mile(5280 feet) = .00909090909
186624 / .00909090909 = 20,528,640 Hz

This is what I believe the LC circuit of the primary should resonate at for Erfinder's ckt.

Thoughts on this?

Charlie_V

You are missing that the 144 inch is based on a 22.5mm scale.  A normal inch is 25.4mm, so an inch in 22.5mm scale is 0.88582 normal inches.  Your coils should be 127.559 normal inches long.  So the frequency you get is 23,174,553.6Hz, or 23.175MHz.  And actually, this frequency might not be fully correct because EM waves do not travel at the speed of light on a wire, they are slower. 

Thats why Tesla says "Let the length be based on the the rate at which a current traverses the circuit".  So if you designed a coil based on these parameters, the frequency would probably be a little lower.  Typically, they travel about 10% slower on a wire, so take the speed of light and multiply it by 0.9 and you'll get a closer frequency you'll need to operate at (which is 20,857,098.24Hz) for a 127.559" long coil.  But I really don't think the length of these coils matter, as long as you match the masses between the primary and secondary - I think that is the trick, not the length. 

All you want to do is produce a maximum voltage at the terminal of each coil.  So that when you series the coils, you get a stacked voltage (like four batteries placed in series).  You'll get the maximum voltage stored in your capacitor that way.  When his switch opens, the secondaries will ring at the high frequency 20Mhz, the capacitor will receive the largest amount of charge.  When the switch closes, energy is returned to the battery and capacitor.  By converting the energy from the battery into a high charge, you assure a low loss due to resistance yet still produce a magnetic field large enough to drive the switch, (I'm not sure if this is a classic generator type magnetic field interaction or if it is closer to a homopolar generator - since the switch is a conducting part of the circuit with a permanent magnetic field).  The equal mass of the coils, I think, produces some sort of mechanical vibration which aids resonance.  Thats my take.