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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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Maximumgravity1

@allcanadian

I am not sure i get it.  If it is DC pulsed, or AC, does it matter what its source is?  Isn't the end result still an alternating current?  I mean by definition, alternating current is just that - current whose polarity continualy changes.  I think this is the same thing Charlie is saying - I am not sure wether sinusidol, +100V or -50V means anything - other then oscilating polarities.  ALthough, I think I am with you on the remainder of the post - as I believe ERFINDER also told us it is a transforme too...

allcanadian

I was looking at the circuit below and had another crazy though that's been kicking around in me noggin for a while.
It is well known that capacitors and inductors don't dissipate energy in AC systems only resistance. So in AC systems we are left with voltage drops and lagging current dragging down the source AC so it has to do work. Charlie_V and Grumpy had mentioned reactance and phase angle which I had to brush up on again, but this is mainstream thinking, surely someone would have thought of this before? So I had to ask a simple question- How does an AC motor "use" power? Inductors and capacitors don't use power, there reactive, it's the voltage drop and lagging current.
So really if we want our motor to do no work on the source of the AC current or get more work we need an increasing voltage and leading current in the motor-- so it's a generator kind of.
Remember VS "do the opposite of what we do today"
So I want the AC generator running at 60Hz @ 120volts but the connected motor running at 125volts with a leading current relative to the generator lets say 62Hz, simple huh?

Here's where my crazy thought came into play, based on what erfinder said.
It should be understood that when the magnetic field of the primary collapses, a unidirectional (direct current in the form of a penetrating radiation) radiation is emitted from the conductor, this radiation is absorbed by the secondary and manifests as a high potential electrostatic field

This radiation or Bemf sounds alot like Teslas radiant energy or cold electricity, and it just so happens this "radiant" energy travels at 1.5 times the speed of light.
So lets go to the diagram below supplied by samebarbosi and see what happens now. If the primary coils E are supplied with a short duration DC impulse the Bemf from this impulse will induce a high voltage "radiant" spike in coils F. Because G is a coil having inductance the spike will charge the capacitor H first, this charge will then oscillate between the capacitor and coils producing an electrostatic alternating current, we know this much. What I haven't heard is the fact that the current traveling in secondary circuit(FGH) is travelling faster than in the primary coils(E). The primary is at the speed of light the secondary at 1.5 times the speed of light. So when the secondary circuit goes to induce a voltage back in the primary because the current is alternating back and forth, the primary would see the secondary current as moving faster--hence the secondary has a leading current relative to the primary and a higher voltage . It all hinges on the fact that we "assume" everything is moving at the same speed, when it is apparently not. The DC source to the primaries E gives 1 unit of energy to the secondaries FGH and expects to get 1 unit back, but it gets 1.5 units back instead, this energy gain or the capacity to do work is then based on the operating frequency to some extent because every oscillation results in a small gain. Which is in line with another thought I had a year ago, that if any part of a system produced more energy than what we wrongly call "unity" and the output was routed back to the input we would have a system of ever increasing energy density, this density limited only by the physical capacity of the system to store energy between cycles. So we would run the machine up until our target voltage and current values were met then start pulling excess energy out of the system.
Damn this may work.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

lancaIV

Hello Charlie_V,
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB352453&F=0
this represent your "never heard" analogon !
It is known and in use as hydraulik ram pump !

You need an e-pump analogon ?
The obove is an amplifier:
search for Joseph C. Yater !
f.e.: http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US5623119&F=0

S
dL

samebarbosi

Quote from: Charlie_V on April 30, 2007, 06:01:36 PM
...  Have you guys ever heard of a "water hammer"?  It's a mechanical effect where you get water in a pipe running then you shut a valve real fast.  It produces a really large force against the valve like a hammer.  You can build long lasting water pumps using this effect.  Interestingly enough, I have never heard of an electrical analog to this.  But I'm sure that if you got a large electrical current flowing in a wire then broke the connection, you could get something very similar.  Perhaps this is where the other half of the goodness comes from? 
...

This thing was discussed in early posts (of Erfinder). The water hammer equivalent is BEMF. I recall because myself I had trouble understanding this and water hammer  analogy did it.

But that is still under the presumption of pulsed current in primary, not alternating sine wave.
It makes a lot of sense with pulsing technique.

allcanadian

@maximumgravity1
I am not sure wether sinusidol, +100V or -50V means anything - other then oscilating polarities.

I think it may mean everthing, can you get severe water hammer with a slow sloshing motion in a pipe like a sine wave motion? probably not
So let's take this analogy to extremes, what if I induced the muther of all water hammers, so much that the water flashed to steam and expanded at the rate of 1500/1. Here we would have a transformation, the water has turned to steam which is not water, nor does it act like water. Big difference.
So what about the opposite? Get some water moving at mach 3 and close the source valve not the outlet, you get massive suction a cold expansion and vaporized water in a near gas like state because it has pulled itself apart. This vapor is not liquid water, nor does it act like liquid water.

Hey, I think I may have solved another question from the statement above.
massive suction=Bemf
cold expansion= cold electricity ---expansion= radiated energy
vaporized water in gas like state= electrostatic radiant energy
"because it has pulled itself apart"= matter to energy transformation?


The same goes for alternating current, we need a sharp powerful impulse to produce a large disturbance in the media. It's about transformation and the power to manifest it.

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