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increase OU of captret

Started by dequadin, February 21, 2013, 03:11:59 AM

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aaron5120

Hi Dequadin,

You R free to share whatever you are willing to share here in this forum, as Internet is a free world for everybody to participate in it.
And we appreciate very much what you have released until now being the generator circuit Version 1.0 to us.
Your disclosure so far is enough for us to start experimenting with.
Keep on your good work, and when you have success with your new design,  the sole good news will make us joyful and excited so much as to you.
We all need to use our brain, and invent, otherwise, we are reduced to a punch of armchair critics.

aaron5120

Groundloop

Dequadin,

Can you say what brand (and type) of capacitors you are using?
Also, what kind of reasoning led you to put all the capacitors into a shielded jar?

Keep up the good work...  :-)

GL.

dequadin

Quote from: Groundloop on March 28, 2013, 09:19:49 AM
Dequadin,

Can you say what brand (and type) of capacitors you are using?
Also, what kind of reasoning led you to put all the capacitors into a shielded jar?

Keep up the good work...  :-)

GL.

those caps are not cheap, for such a high freq. source, what caps will you use?(T.H. Moray signal detector give us hints )
the reason is the foil is easy to capture charge, not the legs of those cap.
when it's complete shield, the output will more stable and voltage drop slower.(maybe output more)
in fact, the effect of put all the capacitors into jar is not huge changes, just better than nothing.
Since the output still small, hard to measure the different.
But one thing that I observed is the temperature does matter. When the cap is heated up, the output is far
lower than the room temperature. Shield it into jar can separate the from the heat source.
And what I want is to make it portable.

aaron5120

Hi Dequadin,
If the output of your captret generator decreases with heat, maybe it is due to the negative temperature coefficient of the capacitance with respect to the increase of ambient heat. That is, the higher the temperature, the lesser the capacitance, hence the lower total output potential.
There are electrolytic capacitors that have positive temperature coefficient of capacitance. That is, the higher the temperature, the higher the capacitance. Hence, choosing this kind of capacitors, maybe you can take advantage of the ambient heat to harness more output, and will not be necessary to isolate the caps from the exterior ambient.

dequadin

Quote from: aaron5120 on March 29, 2013, 01:55:21 AM
Hi Dequadin,
If the output of your captret generator decreases with heat, maybe it is due to the negative temperature coefficient of the capacitance with respect to the increase of ambient heat. That is, the higher the temperature, the lesser the capacitance, hence the lower total output potential.
There are electrolytic capacitors that have positive temperature coefficient of capacitance. That is, the higher the temperature, the higher the capacitance. Hence, choosing this kind of capacitors, maybe you can take advantage of the ambient heat to harness more output, and will not be necessary to isolate the caps from the exterior ambient.

I know what you mean. My caps are naturally colder than air, that should be because of the turning RE into electric.
You should try different caps. I also based on some theory and started making something. (In my opinion, cold thing is better, chemical reaction is mostly related to heat)
I don't know how, try make it out and test it.
I am thinking to reform the caps or "conditioned" the cap, it should self-charge faster than normal cap.