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Lenz Forceless Generator

Started by vineet_kiran, March 07, 2013, 11:55:52 PM

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Bruce_TPU

Quote from: vineet_kiran on March 07, 2013, 11:55:52 PM

A try to eliminate Lenz's forces.
Whenever you place North and South face of magnets on opposing sides of coil, you end up with very LITTLE amount of power.  Flux cancels and no power is generated.  I don't believe it will work, sorry, but would encourage you to try, as that is how we learn.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

crazycut06

I believe that this setup is an ecklin brown flux gate generator, which is said that when the generator is loaded the rotor speeds up making it a lenzless generator....

crazycut06

Quote from: Neo-X on March 08, 2013, 03:47:08 AM
That was similar to daniel quale generator. Even though it has less lenz effect in my understanding this setup doesnt produce so much flux change as a result the induced voltage is not so great.


His setup does not produce much power because he used ferrite speaker magnets, if neo mags are used it is posible to get more...

vineet_kiran

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 08, 2013, 01:38:50 PM

Whenever you place North and South face of magnets on opposing sides of coil, you end up with very LITTLE amount of power.  Flux cancels and no power is generated.  I don't believe it will work, sorry, but would encourage you to try, as that is how we learn.


In that case none of the generators in this world should work.   Because in all generators north and south poles are shorted through the coil.  When polarity is reversed it produces AC wave in the coil.  Open a generator and see.

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: vineet_kiran on March 08, 2013, 06:44:40 PM


In that case none of the generators in this world should work.   Because in all generators north and south poles are shorted through the coil.  When polarity is reversed it produces AC wave in the coil.  Open a generator and see.
You really must play with magnets and coils more.  To produce "electricity" of ANY amount, the coil must see a change of flux.  EXCEPT in the case of a unipolar generator which is an entirely other subject.

If you take a north magnet above a coil, and a south facing coil below the identical coil, and pass the coil through, the way that you have drawn the coil, having a magnet on either end, it will not work.  I have tried it in real life many ways, and the flux cancels, the coils sees no change of flux or very LITTLE and LITTLE power is produced.  Please, feel free to try, if you still do not believe me.  I would love to find a way to do that and be proven incorrect.   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.