PDi Regenerative Acceleration and BiTT Principles

[minnie]

Hi,
   could anyone say what's an AUL  generator please?
                                                                         John.
                                                                                 

[THANE HEINS]

Thane:

There is no way that there are zero watts of mechanical power supplied to the drive shaft of a generator

WHEN IT IS DECELERATING - YOU BETTER BELIEVE THERE IS! 

AND IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH MECHANICAL POWER IS SUPPLIED TO IT - IT ONLY MATTERS WHAT THE DRIVESHAFT IS DOING...

A DRIVE SHAFT THAT IS ACCELERATING HAS ENERGY IN IT AND POSITIVE TORQUE.
(and will drive a generator until the generator counter-torque reduces the positive torque to NET zero)

A DRIVE SHAFT THAT IS AT A STEADY STATE SPEED HAS ZERO NET TORQUE AND ZERO NET ENERGY.
(will not drive a generator and will decelerate under an infinitely small load)

A DRIVE SHAFT THAT IS DECELERATING HAS A NEGATIVE TORQUE (I.E. LESS THAN ZERO).
(is the worst case scenario - absolutely zero mechanical input power and no way to ever be able to accelerate anything ever)

There is always mechanical power being applied by the prime mover to the drive shaft of a generator to keep it turning.

NOT WHEN IT IS DECELERATING BABY! 

And that of course means that the generator is always applying an equal and opposite mechanical load to the supplied shaft power.  MileHigh

ABSOLUTELY AT A STEADY STATE SPEED YES.

MECHANICAL INPUT POWER = MECHANICAL LOAD REQUIREMENTS

SO THE NET TORQUE AND NET DRIVE SHAFT POWER IS ALWAYS ZERO AT ANY STEADY STATE SPEED IN ANY SYSTEM.

WHEN THE ReGenX GENERATOR BEGINS TO ACCELERATE ITSELF AND SUPPLY POWER TO THE LOAD IT DOES SO WITH ZERO WATTS OF MECHANICAL DRIVE SHAFT POWER AND INFINITE EFFICIENCY.

BTW, INFINITE EFFICIENCY IS NOT THE SAME AS INFINITE POWER, SPEED ECT.

REGARDS
Thane

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[THANE HEINS]

Forget about the engine and think that your generator is coupled with  a DC motor.

AS WE DO HERE: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkH1zLdXy1Sz9Osny42gbLvxLpdZsyDxw

HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTH23w7p1OA&list=PLkH1zLdXy1SzzHRYMvvrodtTA7UPj6Zmy&index=1

AND HERE: http://www.slideshare.net/ThaneCHeins/regenx-jln-labs-independent-report1

The overall efficiency will be the ratio of output watts to input watts. 

YES WHEN WE "FORGET ABOUT THE ENGINE"...

THE INPUT IS THE MECHANICAL POWER IN THE DRIVE SHAFT AND THE OUTPUT IS THE POWER TO THE LOAD.

If this ratio is more than one,  then you can feed the generator out put back to motor making the unit self running.

ABSOLUTELY TRUE! BUT THE GENERATOR OUTPUT HAS TO EXCEED ALL THE LOSSES IN THE SYSTEM.

Your argument is that input is the power available at motor shaft and not the wattage supplied to motor.

NOT MY ARGUEMENT YOUR ARGUEMENT BUT YOU ARE THE POOR OLD GUY RIGHT?

YOU PROBABLY FORGOT? SO I PUT IT BELOW AGAIN.

Think that you are supplying 100 Watts of electric power to the motor.  It may develop 90 watts of mechanical power at the shaft after losses in armature.  This 90 watts  shaft is connected to a generator.

WHEN THIS 90 WATTS IS CONNECTED TO A GENERATOR THE GENERATORS INERTIA WILL REDUCE THIS AVAILABLE POWER ACCORDINGLY.

If generator produces 101 watts,   then you can transfer 100 watts back to motor and take out 1 watt perpetual energy.

NOPE.

THE ENERGY REQUIRED TO DRIVE THE GENERATOR'S MECHANICAL LOAD ALSO HAS TO BE FACTORED IN.

When things are so simple, why sofar you are unable to make  a self running machine?

WHO SAID WE HAVEN'T?

As a old man I would request lord Electricus ( God of electricity)  to bless your generator with infinite efficiency, infinite current, infinite voltage, infinite wattage and your bike to run with  INFINITE SPEED.

THANK YOU POOR OLD MAN... 

[DeepCut]

Hi,
   could anyone say what's an AUL  generator please?
                                                                         John.
                                                                               

Hi minnie.

AUL just stands for acceleration-under-load. A phenomenon noticed by Adams, Muller, possibly Newman (i don't know who spotted it first ?).

It can be saturation of the core or it can be to do with the retarded rise-time of the inductor.

I think it's something more than this, there are some strange effects that can't be explained conventionally.

Motor-generators are a mature technology, which means that noone tries to make them very differently, which means that exploration of topology, speed, frequency has taken a few, fixed paths.

Thane has taken this effect further than anyone, he's pushed the boundaries.

If you go to the first page of this thread there are videos and documents that explain the theory.


All the best,

DC.

[THANE HEINS]

Thane has taken this effect further than anyone, he's pushed the boundaries.

AND WITH ANY LUCK - ALL THE WAY TO THE ANL AND US DOE 

AND WHY VETTING ALL THE POSSIBLE IDIOTIC ARGUEMENT(S) IS SO IMPORTANT AND NECESSARY HERE AS IS EXPANDING THE KNOWLEDGE BASE AND PRESERVING THE INNOVATION.

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Subject: PDi ReGenX Demo to U.S. - Argonne National Laboratory (ANL) & DOE
From: <thaneh@potentialdifference.ca>
Date: Sat, March 23, 2013 12:16 pm
To: "Johnson, Larry R."
Cc: Christy Cooper, Yury Kalish, David Danielson, Patrick Davis, Ian Potter, David Lisk, Gilles Leclerc, James E Hansen

Dear Larry,

Thank you for responding.

PDi would be very happy to come to Chicago at our expense and provide your engineers at the Argonne National Laboratory (and DOE) with a live ReGenX demo as soon as the arrangements can be made.

We would also be very happy to show you how the USA can begin to meet President Obama's Target below in one year (not 10) and for zero dollars (not $2 billion).

With support (official or unofficial) from the ANL and the DOE, PDi will provide any US company interested with a manufacturing and or distribution IP license and we will provide all the necessary manufacturing templates via our engineering partners in the UK, Germany, France, Canada and the USA.

No additional research funds are required and the innovation is currently being integrated into several EV platforms globally.

Here is an interim ReGenX report as prepared for Richard Branson and Prince Charles for their pending demo in the UK from the same scientist who has provided demonstrations previously to Kofi Annan and the UN.

JLN Labs FRANCE ReGenX Report: http://www.slideshare.net/ThaneCHeins/regenx-jln-labs-independent-report1

Also please find attached independent test data as provided by a retired National Research Council of Canada scientist which shows the ReGenX generator delivering over 200% more power to a load with 40% less input energy required over a conventional generator at the same RPM (lines 5 & 7). As you know in an EV this would translate to over 200% more range with 40% less battery power and about triple the current range of any EV on the road today. We would replay this test protocol identically for your engineers in any informal or formal demonstration.

Kind regards
Thane

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Obama proposed the idea of an energy security trust last month in his State of the Union address, but he was putting a price tag on the idea during a trip Friday to the Argonne National Laboratory outside Chicago - $2 billion over 10 years. The White House said the research would be paid for with revenue from federal oil and gas leases on offshore drilling and would not add to the deficit.

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Subject: RE: U.S. - China Clean Energy Research Center Introduction to Regenerative Acceleration Generator (ReGenX) Technology
From: Johnson, Larry R.
Date: Fri, March 22, 2013 5:20 pm
To: "thaneh@potentialdifference.ca" <thaneh@potentialdifference.ca>
Cc: christy.cooper, yury.kalish, David.Danielson, patrick.davis, Ian Potter, David Lisk, Gilles.Leclerc, James.e.hansen


Thane Heins

I regret the delay in responding, but our engineers were very busy last week preparing for President Barack Obama visit to Argonne on Friday to see our transportation research. 

A few of us have taken a quick look at the links you provided.  Needless to say, it is an interesting concept.  We appreciate the offer to come to Ottawa to see a live demonstration, but with tight budgets, we would not be able to do that.  You mention that you could also demonstrate the device at TRACC's location.  Do you have a working relationship with TRACC?  Certainly if you come to the Chicago area, we could carve out some time to observe a demonstration. 

To be clear, we are not funded by the Department of Energy to conduct testing and evaluations of novel energy concepts.  On occasion, we have conducted these types of tests at the specific direction of DOE or in rare cases when funded by a company.  Therefore unless we are directed by DOE to conduct an assessment of your new generator, we would only be able to observe your demonstration, but would not likely be in a position to officially comment on it. That said, several of us would be interested seeing your demonstration should you have occasion to be in the Chicago area.

Regards,

   Larry

From: thaneh@potentialdifference.ca [mailto:thaneh@potentialdifference.ca]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:55 AM
To: Johnson, Larry R.
Cc: christy.cooper; yury.kalish; David.Danielson; patrick.davis; Ian Potter; David Lisk; Gilles.Leclerc; james.e.hansen

Subject: U.S. - China Clean Energy Research Center Introduction to Regenerative Acceleration Generator (ReGenX) Technology

Dear Dr. Johnson,

Please allow me to introduce you to (and invite you to a live demonstration) of a new electric generator innovation that has been developed here in Canada at the University of Ottawa which has the capacity to reverse the regenerative braking paradigm that currently exists in EVs and produce regenerative acceleration in its place.

The ReGenX generator innovation reverses the counter-electromotive-torque or decelerative torque produced by all generators which causes EVs to decelerate while recharging their batteries and creates a complementary-electromotive-torque or accelerative torque in its place.

This innovation allows EVs to recharge themselves as they drive and does not rely on vehicle inertia to drive the generator.

Because a complementary-electromotive-torque is produced, the ReGenX generator can begin recharging an EV's batteries at 4 mph and continue to do so during acceleration, coasting and during braking. Regenerative braking can also be retained if desired.

The graph below shows a conventional 'regenerative braking' generator (in red) on load and the ReGenX regenerative acceleration generator in blue.

The conventional generator creates a counter-electromotive-torque and causes system deceleration under load whereas the ReGenX generator creates a complementary-electromotive-torque and accelerates the system under load. These tests are being produced independently in France http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE08en.htm 

This link (http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE09en.htm) provides test data concerning charging an EV battery with system acceleration.

If you are interested in a live Regenerative Acceleration Generator demonstration here in Ottawa or in at TRACC's location in Chicago please let me know at your convenience. The demonstration would be very similar to this one:http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkH1zLdXy1SypPD7inxAYi8MjkQk91syC

http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE08en.htm

http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE09en.htm

Kind regards
Thane

Thane C. Heins
President & CEO
Potential +/- Difference Inc. R & D
"Using our potential to make a difference"
Email: thaneh@potentialdifference.ca
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