Big try at gravity wheel

[TinselKoala]

  Koala,
          at my house a 5hp machine takes about six and a half hp to run it,
                                           John.

Well, heck, all you need to do then is to run the system backwards. How hard is that? Then you'll have your 1.5 hp net. After all, numbers don't lie. Would you like to see my spreadsheet proof?

[MarkE]

  Koala,
          at my house a 5hp machine takes about six and a half hp to run it,
                                           John.

Can we make up the difference in volume?

[Grimer]

Wayne Travis, there is no free energy to be had cyclically lifting and dropping: rocks, water volumes, air volumes, lollipops or pistachio nuts, or any combination of the above.

I disagree. Wayne may well be deluded or worse but in principle it is possible to harness gravitational energy by dropping things in an intelligent fashion. I have already shown how this can be done with the Keenie. How about some detailed critique of my explanation rather than handwaving and insults.


At least you can't accuse me of a Ponzi scheme. 

[MarkE]

Mr. Grimer there is a thread set-up so that you can discuss your Keenie device ideas to your heart's content:

http://www.overunity.com/14302/keenie-device/

[TinselKoala]

 

I have already shown how this can be done with the Keenie. How about some detailed critique of my explanation rather than handwaving and insults.

No you haven't. How about testing your ideas experimentally for validity before you claim that they are valid? Other people have done so and have found them invalid. No working example of any gravity powered wheel exists, Keenie or any other, and the reason is that it cannot work, and the reasons it cannot work are given in great detail in many engineering textbooks, for example Beer and Johnston, and the same people that are telling you it cannot work are the same people who do do amazing things involving gravity, like landing a robot probe on Titan, for instance. I think that they are much more likely to be correct than you are, Frank.

Sorry, next discussion should take place in the new thread MarkE started for you.