Big try at gravity wheel

[Grimer]

You obvious don't believe in the exhortation DYOR.


Still, seeing that you are possibly capable of understanding I'll take pity on you.


This paper by Hans van Lieden is a good place to start.

http://www.zen111904.zen.co.uk/THE%20ROAD%20TO%20PERPETUAL%20MOTION.htm

[Grimer]

Davis [1] said that the whole structure of science "is a cracked and sagging edifice held together with masking tape and resting on the shifting sands of constantly changing theory.  Nothing is known with any real certainty.Some things are merely more probable than others. Well-known theories and even laws turn out to be only partially confirmed hypotheses, waiting to be replaced with somewhat better partially confirmed hypotheses.If there is one thing we know about every theory in modern physics, it is that it's wrong or at least incomplete.  Sooner or later somebody will come along with a more general theory of which the old theory is seen to be a special case.This is not a criticism of science, but merely a description of the scientific method."

Ain't that a fact. 

[tim123]

So now you're being insulting and patronising... And I thought we were friends...

You claimed to have a proof of an OU device, all I asked for was details. In response you tell me I don't do my own research.

The device you link to has never been shown to work. Just because someone built it, and claimed it worked, means nothing. As I said before: Have you not noticed the large number of frauds in the field of OU?

Perhaps you think there is some benefit in just believing in things? Perhaps you think that by believing in things, it makes it more likely they'll work?

Belief is the opposite of knowing. It's worthless.

[Grimer]

Calm down Tim.


I'm well aware that no one has been able to make it work except Keenie.


That's because people didn't appreciate how and why it worked.


I merely gave you Hans's paper as a good intro to the Bessler Forum threads on the subject.


I can't think why you thought we were friends. We've never even been introduced.   


Ah well, Destry - or rather Cognitive Dissonance rides again.
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[tim123]

So you have nothing.

I was being sarcastic with the 'friends' remark FYI.