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Big try at gravity wheel

Started by nfeijo, May 03, 2013, 10:03:04 AM

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Red_Sunset

Quote from: minnie on January 23, 2014, 06:48:27 AM
   Oh dear Sunset,
                         trouble is you're digging to find a gold bar in the most unlikely place.
  Many people have scanned your chosen site with the most up-to-date equipment and
  there's nothing there.
      Do some prospecting of your own, find somewhere that you're in with a chance.
  The laws that are known are quite robust, if they weren't you couldn't count on anything,
   simply, things just wouldn't work.
                            John.
Minnie,

You are quite a philosopher, some wise words spoken !
Idealism is hard to bury.

Red

powercat

Quote from: webby1 on January 22, 2014, 03:42:20 PM
Yet here TK is after all is secret work for propulsion labs and all that R and D work, instead of getting paid big bucks to come up with the nest best thing since sliced bread.

Pot Kettle BLACK there TK.

What a load of garbage that was,, I stated before and I will state again that I did not know that I was going to win anything, nor is money any form of motivation for myself.

So all understand,, I play with things that I find interesting, that may be from someone else or a question I ask myself from observations I have made, then I try and come up with a method to test for it.

I do all of my stuff with things I have lying around or have scavenged.  Seldom will I go and purchase items and when I do I keep those costs down as low as I can.

Unlike some who choose to do nothing but make comments I try and build things,, TK at least builds all sorts of things,, but his choice to belittle people and ideas when he is not able to figure something out or get exactly what he wants when he wants it is not a valid response.

Now, with all the B.S. put aside where is the refutation to what I posted,

http://www.overunity.com/13480/big-try-at-gravity-wheel/msg384387/#msg384387

where is the proof, show me the proof,, show me the sausages,, YOU CAN'T.


Quote from: webby1 on: November 14, 2012, 10:57:19 PM
Quoteuse the first set of numbers I posted and use the 2\3 drop for a half full reservoir,, that is clear OU in my opinion.
Your words webby, so there are two conclusions, yourself and Wayne Travis are the only people to have successfully achieved OU in history, and you both have decided not to produce a working model, or have it verified scientifically,

the other conclusion is you are talking BS and the $2000 did influence your measuring capabilities. 

As for trying to make out that if you don't construct anything you shouldn't pass comments, you are mistaken certainly about me, as I have done and shown experiments on this forum, so instead of trying to divert, why don't you just admit that you never did achieve OU ?, But I guess having gotten into bed with a conman and taken his money you feel obliged to stick with the lie.
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

MarkE

Quote from: Red_Sunset on January 23, 2014, 05:14:09 AM
MarkE
Reading fast with comprehension and understand at the same time shaded context relationships is an art.
The purpose of my post #499 was, "explaining at a high level, the operating principle of that lever"
You wouldn't want me to repeat the detailed workings with pictures of all that Wayne described in his topic line, would you ?
I hate duplication, it is all there, read it and see what he did to overcome the quoted limitation.
Do not be "pre-conceived" where the energy is going to come from.
Milking is the best way to describe it. You take part but you don't kill the cow

Maybe Minnie can help you and teach you the milking part !!

Red_Sunset
Red_Sunset long before I asked you, I like many others asked HER to state any operating principle that would allow for their fantastical free energy buoyancy machine claims.  Their opaque response to all was a bunch of hand waving ending with:  "Travis Effect".  Sadly, as we see in their videos, HER / HER's representative Tom fails to demonstrate anything other than misrepresentation of Archimedes' Principle.  Perhaps the real "Travis Effect" is how one can use fantastical claims to create a psychological force powerful enough to lift money right out of some investors' wallets.  I have asked you to state what principle would allow for HER's claims to be true and you offered by way of analogy a magic lever with fantastical COE violating properties.

Fantastical seems to be the operating theme with HER.  HER's claims of free energy from any device are on their face fantastical.  HER's claims that they have discovered a buoyancy effect distinct from Archimedes' Principal are fantastical.  HER's claims that buoyancy can be manipulated to yield net energy cycle to cycle lifting and dropping the same mass are fantastical.  HER's repeated claims that they would subject a working machine to a run down test have proven themselves false.  What HER have not done, and what no supporter of HER have ever done is state any principle nor demonstrate any machine that backs up HER's fantastical claims.

You insist that buried somewhere among thousands and thousands of posts there is a Ronald Reagan style pony that states an actual real principle that allows for HER's fantastical claims.  Great:  By all means go dig through those posts to your heart's content.  If you should ever find that pony in the form of a principle that allows for HER's claims without resorting to magic, then I will be happy to read it and discuss it.

minnie




  Sunset,
            so the poor man starved to death. You can't live on gold either.
You made me realise how lucky I am!
I've got wood to burn,
Milk
Eggs
Meat
Wool
Water from a spring
Oats
And where does this all come from......the sun
That should give you a clue.
Were I to clad my roofs with pv. I'd have juice a plenty
One big snag I can't store that energy .
          John

powercat

@ webby

1,Did you achieve OU ?

2,Did you think you did at the time and now have changed your mind ?

3,you don't know what you achieved but you believe in Wayne Travis so you went along with it ?

Simple yes or no answer would help clear things up, but the likelihood is that you will give a vague response that doesn't commit  you.


Joined this forum in the hope of discovering OU one day, and whenever I see somebody claiming they have achieved this or know how it works myself and others who are interested in the subject will pursue them and demand evidence of what they claim.
and that is not going to change despite how many vague and misleading excuses they come up with.
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall