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Big try at gravity wheel

Started by nfeijo, May 03, 2013, 10:03:04 AM

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Red_Sunset

Quote from: powercat on January 30, 2014, 07:26:10 AM
You're such a control freak, and you keep distorting and twisting reality to suit your argument, despite being told numerous times by people that show your theory and opinion are flawed you insist that you know better, here is a recent example of your twisted words.



But you do care, anyone reading through your previous posts will see that, and after making that statement within a number of hours you make this statement



Are you struggling to find an argument that doesn't show you to be contradicting,  I know you want to talk about theories and promote your own opinions, you have already filled this thread with your arguments and opinions and virtually everyone disagrees with you, and virtually everyone keeps asking you to show some evidence, but all you ever give back are more words.

PowerCat,
You amaze me, I know you are avoiding your claims, but I remember.
Why can we not stick to some good old fashioned technical discussion to take the topic at hand,  forward ?

Yes, I know they say that my theory is flawed but they do not demonstrate why ? (just mentioning conservation is insufficient). When it comes to Wayne, I have never met him. It is not Wayne but the principle he tried to convey to you all that you all so nonchalantly rejected , that aligns me favorable towards him.

What give me control, I know the knowledge is based on sound principles, we also know that you can not assimilate a decent argument and the posts you threw this far at me, you were unable to make stick, that is why I became cocky.

<<"virtually everyone keeps asking you to show some evidence",>>
The asymmetry proposal provide the conceptual understanding on how the invention accomplishes the gain at the end of the cycle.  It doesn't provide the means on how is done in the implementation. You need to accept that.

What evidence can be provided has been provided, that should be clear by now.  You must realize by now that you can not get it all, this has not been promised. If you can connect the dots..you are entitled to it. Then you deserve it.
Have you seen anywhere a question what follows similar lines to "What is the reason? or why do you think that?, or how did you come to that conclusion?." 
or do you see mostly accusations in 4 letter words like, deluded, you don't have anything, fraud, liar, cheat...ect

I don't see why it is so difficult for people to ask some decent questions of inquiry that are not preceded by an accusation

How would you rate the response made by MarkE following my "asymmetry proposal ",
1..  An inquiry to figure out more working details, trying to understand the proposal (finding the good, expanding on the idea)
2..  A judgement call on how to shoot down the proposal (finding the bad in the proposal, breaking it down)

My rating was a "#2" , what do you then expect to receive ?
A bad question usually receives  a bad answer.  You can not expect a good favorable reaction when you call 4 letter names before you "demand" an answer. I thought this was universally understood

You can be the judge..
Give me good counter argument based on due diligence, I don't give you much chance that you will be able to do that, or just surprise me so I can change my mind.

Red_Sunset

minnie




   Sunset,
             the bottom line now is that nobody's  got a clue what you're on about.
Everyone 'll just get bored and give up and go away.
   If there's a valid principle either describe it or go and make one yourself that
works and you'll be world famous and that is for sure.
              John.

Red_Sunset

Quote from: minnie on January 30, 2014, 10:07:02 AM
   Sunset,
            ..........................................
.....................................you'll be world famous and that is for sure.
              John.

Hi John,
No John, not me, my prediction,

                            >>  WAYNE TRAVIS   <<
                      >>   THE MAN of the YEAR  <<
                                  Time Magazine 2014

I can not help that these guys can not get a grip on this and tell me exactly why this is NOT POSSIBLE
and need to resort to the scalding tactics
It looks like revenge has ran its course !!

Red_Sunset

TinselKoala

It appears that Red has proved that anything will float in water, no matter how heavy it is.


In the PowerPoint presentation (linked earlier) of Travis's scheme I refer you to Slide 26. Here Travis is presenting what he believes to be a key operating principle of his design. But it is false.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3doy-eyZew

Maybe this demonstration will chase away some of Red's "red herrings" in the form of floating battleships.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFjqBaH_NWU

More:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aqE9A_0WRg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68p0EX4IHSk


And just for fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8WYI7QCj0k




TinselKoala

Quote from: Red_Sunset on January 30, 2014, 10:24:58 AM
Hi John,
No John, not me, my prediction,

                            >>  WAYNE TRAVIS   <<
                      >>   THE MAN of the YEAR  <<
                                  Time Magazine 2014

I can not help that these guys can not get a grip on this and tell me exactly why this is NOT POSSIBLE
and need to resort to the scalding tactics
It looks like revenge has ran its course !!

Red_Sunset

You have been told over and over again exactly why this is NOT POSSIBLE. You choose to ignore sound scientific principles and demonstrations. You are like the child who asks "What color is the sky?"  Why, child, it is blue. "But what COLOR is the sky?" Blue. "You haven't told me what the color of the SKY is." Yes, child, we have told you it is blue. Look, here is a Pantone color chart, compare to the sky. See? Blue. "No, your chart is irrelevant. What color IS the sky, and you must not know the answer since you keep saying the same stupid thing "blue"". But child.... the sky is BLUE. "No, it isn't. Your proofs mean nothing, they are just textbook proofs. WHAT color is the sky?" How is it possible to make any progress under these circumstances?