Big try at gravity wheel

[wings]

some study on this

[MarkE]

MarkE,

YOU CLEARLY DO NOT WANT ANY PROOF in ANY FORM or SHAPE. 
I do understand you do not like to be proven wrong, because you know you would be !
Not participating will disallow you to provide input "for or against"
You can always opt out at any step if you so choose, otherwise
no problem ,.... bye ..bye

Red_Sunset

Red_Sunset as I have consistently said:  You are welcome and encouraged to provide evidence that supports your extraordinary claims anytime that you like.  So far you have chosen not to do so.

[Red_Sunset]

Red_Sunset as I have consistently said:  You are welcome and encouraged to provide evidence that supports your extraordinary claims anytime that you like.  So far you have chosen not to do so.

MarkE,

Here it is, the first installment of what you have been looking for.
I considered a gradual structured release advisable because of he release of new concepts that have been misunderstood and in the past have been used to turn into mockery. 
You might want something else....understood,  but what I can give you is started with post #868.
or choose to carry on with "So far you have chosen not to do so."

It doesn't matter to me, I am just calling your bluff !

Red_Sunset

[MarkE]

MarkE,

Here it is, the first installment of what you have been looking for.
I considered a gradual structured release advisable because of he release of new concepts that have been misunderstood and in the past have been used to turn into mockery. 
You might want something else....understood,  but what I can give you is started with post #868.
or choose to carry on with "So far you have chosen not to do so."

It doesn't matter to me, I am just calling your bluff !

Red_Sunset

Red_Sunset, evidence for excess energy only requires that you calculate the four energy values: 

Starting energy, added energy, removed energy, and ending energy upon return to the original starting condition.  If the sum of removed and ending energies exceed the sum of starting and added energies then you've got a gain.  If not, you've broken even or got a loss.

Anytime that you would like to start providing those energy values you are welcome to do so. 

[Red_Sunset]

some study on this 

Wings,

The encyclopedia of perpetual motion machines, sure a lot can be learned from them.
There is a major difference between traditional thinking (as seen here on OU.com) and the Travis Effect concept.
Traditionally you would rely on a natural effect to get you over the sticky point,  no not possible.  Inputting energy to pull it over is also useless. No gain there!

MarkE & TK and others who are "hard of hearing" are still thinking the same way, energy in , energy store, produce more energy...finding energy from environment.......or 0+0=0.....ect...  no..no....no !.  No floating floats from great depth to the surface ....ect.  It will never work, or so it has shown over hundreds of years.  The principle is too crude and head-on, it cost too much !

The Travis Effect, is a different approach >> Do a natural action, nature's forces will respond within its standard framework, governed by its laws. change the key parameters and nature's forces will respond also within its standard framework, governed by its laws.
But this time round to our advantage.
Low cost because the interference is not direct head-on pushing something over the sticky point.  It is an elegant and clever solution.
No laws are broken

Red_Sunset