Big try at gravity wheel

[TinselKoala]

Yes, I've pointed out that laughable misrepresentation of reality in Slide 26 before. I even made a video demonstration refuting it, as if that were really necessary. I'd love to hear the narration that must have accompanied that slide when the presentation was made to the prospective investors. Maybe that's why none of them "bit" or chose to invest in Travis at the time.

[TinselKoala]

I'm not saying his system works. I would be surprised if it did especially as money is involved - always a bad sign.

Yes, you have said that Keenie's system works. But it does not.

I'm saying that there is no intrinsic reason why a hydraulic system should not work

Yes, there is an intrinsic reason why a hydraulic free energy system should not work, and you cannot describe one that does.

[MileHigh]

That PowerPoint presentation could probably be used as evidence against Wayne in a criminal trial.  It's the "Russian Doll" pitch used to bamboozle gullible investors.  An expert witness for the state could trash it with their eyes closed.

I would _love_ to see this guy get taken down.  What goes without saying is that the whole "good Christian man of high moral values" shtick is all part of the game.

There is this creepy little-known Peter Fonda movie called "Split Image" that reminds me of Wayne.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084714/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_67
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_Image_%28film%29
http://www.allmovie.com/movie/split-image-v46155/review

Ted Kotcheff's film about a teenaged Olympic prospect who joins a cult takes an interestingly contrarian stand toward the period's conventional wisdom on the subject. The late '70s and '80s saw the rise of a wave of mostly fraudulent pseudo-religious organizations, which preyed on the naïveté and confusion of young people and existed primarily to separate those they solicited from their money. Kotcheff's film adds complexity to the stereotyped situation: The cult inductee (Michael O'Keefe) is something of a trophy son to his overly ambitious parents (Brian Dennehy and Elizabeth Ashley) and the group he joins is in most ways indistinguishable from a genuine religious organization. As many others did during this era, they call in a deprogrammer (James Woods) whose job is to return their son to them. This character turns out to be an unsettling hybrid of used car salesman and Marine drill sergeant and he takes the film in an unexpected direction. The film asks intriguing questions about the relative values of a dedicated, selfless life, and one of more normal pursuits, while ironically noting the brainwashing aspects of even the most benign religious groups. Woods gives a blistering performance as the fascist mercenary, a cure more dangerous than the ostensible disease. The stellar cast also includes Peter Fonda and Peter Horton.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Webby:

It's time to stop this ridiculous nonsense right now and be a man.  You are telling us that you can't even make a presentation that is as organized and coherent as a kid's presentation on on how a flower grows in Grade 3 Show and Tell?

It's just totally ridiculous.  I am assuming that you are a gown man and yet you seemingly can't comprehend how ridiculous you look.  You have been asked repeatedly to show some kind of step-by-step process with diagrams and energy balances per step with calculations and descriptions of what is supposed to be taking place in each step.  Your brain can't process that?

This is surreal and ridiculous and just the fact that the "Brain" endorsed your Tupperware party shows how freaky and crazy this whole story is.  Personally, I would not bother trying to engage with you when you act like this.  And if you feel that you are being "genuine" it just plays into how surreal and ridiculous this whole sham really is.

Rant off.

MileHigh

[MarkE]

All conditions are known, but this time I raised the whole system up so it is between 0 and 165mm and I used the actual pa value for those pressures.

(1.767145868×15)−(1.590375518×15)= 2.65155525cc full down volume

1.590375518×1.5= 2.385563277cc added volume for lift

2.385563277+2.65155525= 5.037118527cc  total added volume

1.767145868×1.5 = 2.650718802cc full upper volume after lift.

101325 pa at 0 depth    0

101476 pa at 15mm       151

102079 pa at 75mm       754

102154 pa at 82.5mm     829

102230 pa at 90mm       905

102833 pa at 150mm      1508

102984 pa at 165mm      1659


102908.5 pa at midpoint 1583.5 150-165
102230   pa at midpoint 905     15-165
101400.5 pa at midpoint 75.5     0-15
102079   pa at midpoint 754      0-150

2.385563277cc×102908.5pa = 245494.738491154 added for lift step
2.65155525cc×102230pa =  271068.4932075 added for buoyant step

271068.4932075+245494.738491154 = 516563.231698654 total cost for lift




2.385563277cc×101400.5pa = 241897.309069438 air recovery
245494.738491154−241897.309069438 = 3597.429421716 loss

2.65155525cc×102079pa = 270668.10836475 air recovery
271068.4932075−270668.10836475 = 400.38484275 loss

2.650718802cc×102833pa = 272581.366566066 load recovery

272581.366566066+241897.309069438+270668.10836475 = 785146.784000254


785146.784000254−516563.231698654 = 268583.5523016  profit

Webby since this is several times through for you, it would seem that you do not know how to perform an energy balance analysis.  You need to show specific states.  You need to state and/or show what process you believe takes you from one state to another.  For example:  You could say that you are going to only recognize three states:  A starting state where one cylinder is "charged" in the up position and the other is in the down position with the payload weight on it, a second state where all the "air" has been transferred from one cylinder to the other, resulting in both cylinders being raised and you remove the payload.  And a third state where you have returned the now "uncharged" cylinder to its lowered position and placed a new payload weight over that cylinder.  Under such a representation, you would then need to show how you get between the first and second state, IE what process do you execute, and how you account for energy that you need to add, and/or get to remove.  Then you need to do the same for the transition from the second state to the third state.