Big try at gravity wheel

[MarkE]

Alrighty MarkE.

Show the numbers for a simple condition.

This is using the simple 90 degree lever.

What is the work needed to be added into the system to stop the acceleration of the weights by gravity as the horizontal weight transitions from horizontal to the rest position.

Again it appears that you do not understand.  Move your "air".  Account for the energy.  If the energy remains stored as potential you are bound to the losses.

Can this work be performed by another lever correctly designed to lift another weight.

Is there stored energy in the increase in GPE of that second lever and weight.

Lifting weights, cocking springs etc keeps the energy in potential form.  They all suffer the losses.

As a note on this exact setup I used a gear and lever for the second lever because I also allowed that lever to over-rotate and apply that GPE back into the main lever to continue the motion of lifting the vertical weight to horizontal.  No pendulum effect because the acceleration was not allowed, but the motion still happened, it did not make it all the way but it was within a few degrees of rotation of getting there, frictional losses and non-perfect pivots consumed some of the energy.

You are still describing schemes that store their energy in potential form.  If that's your end game, you have lost.  A pendulum works only because all of the potential energy converts to kinetic and then back.  Any attempt to build a pendulum that stores energy only in either form will suffer ~50% energy loss each cycle.  A Q of 2 system dies out very fast.

The stored potential in the cylinder.

The method I have brought forward is to allow that potential to be expressed as a force over distance into an external system that then converts the work into another packet of force over distance.

webby, it is your claim that you have already realized and measured a system that does not have the losses I have pointed out.  If you wish to reclaim any credibility at all you need to show the supposed mechanism that you used to transfer the "air" without the huge losses that I have pointed out.  After all you say that you have been using such mechanisms for decades.  Each of the methods you have proposed to date fails to address the underlying problem.  They are all non-starters. 

[MarkE]

The pictures are helpful.  They do not show any means to get the "air" from one side to the other without the huge losses.

[TinselKoala]

Thanks TK I have added it to the list

Wayne Travis
He has promised verification
He has promised newspaper coverage on his discovery
He has promised scientific journals coverage
He has promised a production line
He has promised open sourcing
He has promised run data
He has promised simple physics can show how this device works
He has promised that he has already given out the information required.(But you must look properly)
He has promised that his optimized system is over 600% efficient.
He has promised that he always keeps his word and tells the truth
He has promised it will all be happening soon (over two years ago)
He has promised that he's leaving the forum and won't be back
He has promised a 50 kW "field unit" at Trinity Baptist Church, within 3 months of funded.(over 3 years ago)

@ Any more, please post

Bump. This took a lot of work on Powercat's part, because Travis has removed the old newsletters from his re-designed websites. I imagine his lawyers read him the riot act over making so many clear claims that he could not support with evidence.
Maybe Travis doesn't realize that the internet never forgets.

[mondrasek]

The pictures are helpful.  They do not show any means to get the "air" from one side to the other without the huge losses.

MarkE, no air is moved in or out of the model webby1 is showing.  The model he is showing is a multilayer ZED (I forget how many layers, but more than 3) that is only moving water in and out again.  Very similar in function to the model we are working on in the Mathematical Analysis thread.

Webby1 began with his air transfer analysis attempt to try to explain how he began to understand the interactions that occur in this model.

[MarkE]

MarkE, no air is moved in or out of the model webby1 is showing.  The model he is showing is a multilayer ZED (I forget how many layers, but more than 3) that is only moving water in and out again.  Very similar in function to the model we are working on in the Mathematical Analysis thread.

Webby1 began with his air transfer analysis attempt to try to explain how he began to understand the interactions that occur in this model.

Mondrasek, webby's stated scheme shuffles "air", actually displaces water between two submerged volumes.  The process is lossy for the reasons I have already repeated numerous times.  They are the same reasons that the transition from State 2 to State 3 in your example loses stored energy.