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Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.

Started by synchro1, June 09, 2013, 11:07:49 AM

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synchro1

Magnetic film viewer: Notice the brightness contrast, especially in the area where the polarity changes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLHl9mnRSbc

synchro1

Once again this video better then any other demonstrates where the magnet backed ferrite core coil needs to be positioned to neutralize the attraction and the repulsión between the rotor and magnet backed ferrite. Both the rotor and backing magnets are in repulsión. However, the rotor magnets are attracted to the ferrite core just like the steel bar in this video. This "Neutral Zone" between the red lines should be sharply contrasted by the magnet viewing film and trigger the pivot sheer magnet positioner from the optical sensors in TK's video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvP7VuFmNo

The GAP power cycle consists of two phases; One, the coil is polaized in attraction to the rotor magnets along with the neutralized ferrite. At TDC, the field is de-energized and the rotor gets a push from the backing magnets in opposition. The coil core is over the neutral zone at this point. The coil core needs to loose magnetic strength  to "hide" from the rotor to achieve "Lenz Reversal" output propulsión. As the rotor accelerates, the coil's field strength needs to be continually adjusted to prevent cogging and sustain acceleration. The viewer, optical sensors and the push pull pivot sheer magnet positioner should work together enough to keep the fields balanced automatically.

MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on December 12, 2014, 07:08:24 PM
Once again this video better then any other demonstrates where the magnet backed ferrite core coil needs to be positioned to neutralize the attraction and the repulsión between the rotor and magnet backed ferrite. Both the rotor and backing magnets are in repulsión. However, the rotor magnets are attracted to the ferrite core just like the steel bar in this video. This "Neutral Zone" between the red lines should be sharply contrasted by the magnet viewing film and trigger the pivot sheer magnet positioner from the optical sensors in TK's video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvP7VuFmNo

The GAP power cycle consists of two phases; One, the coil is polaized in attraction to the rotor magnets along with the neutralized ferrite. At TDC, the field is de-energized and the rotor gets a push from the backing magnets in opposition. The coil core is over the neutral zone at this point. The coil core needs to loose magnetic strength  to "hide" from the rotor to achieve "Lenz Reversal" output propulsión. As the rotor accelerates, the coil's field strength needs to be continually adjusted to prevent cogging and sustain acceleration. The viewer, optical sensors and the push pull pivot sheer magnet positioner should work together enough to keep the fields balanced automatically.
The video demonstrates different configurations of two competing forces.

A "Lenz reversal" would require induced voltage to orient such that if current were to flow the current would reinforce the inducing field.  You have offered no evidence that such a thing occurs.


TinselKoala

Quote from: Erfinder on December 13, 2014, 02:13:32 AM

Out of  curiosity, in your opinion, what does it signify when the induced wave, for lack of a better way of  putting it, "morphs" into a perfectly square wave? 




Regards
I'm not following you. In the video above the induced waveform approaches zero as the proper position vertically is approached. The Orbette is a core effect pulse motor, it does not work by electromagnetic attraction or repulsion from the toroidal coils to the rotor magnets. There are two rows of magnets in the rotor; the top row is all N facing out and the bottom row is all S facing out, in vertical pairs. The core effect consists of the applied current to the toroidal coils driving the core material into saturation, or close to it. This actually _reduces_ the attraction of the magnets, both N and S, to the core material. So the timing of the drive pulse is such that it happens just at the point of closest approach of the rotor magnets to the cores. When the current is _off_ the magnets are strongly attracted to the cores and when the current is _on_ they are less attracted-- so the rotor accelerates on the approach and does _not decelerate_ proportionally on the departure from the closest approach. This results in an overall acceleration of the rotor.  The polarity of the magnets or of the current does not matter to the core effect since the field of the electromagnet is almost completely confined within the toroidal core. The core effect motor does not work on electromagnetic attraction or repulsion between the core and the rotor magnets as a normal solenoidal-wound system would. So even when you have the core positioned vertically at the proper "halfway" point between the rows of magnets on the rotor, reducing the "generator effect" from the magnets passing to close to zero, the "core effect" which actually drives the rotor is not reduced.
This type of pulse motor is very subtle in its effects; the "core effect" has even been interpreted as a "free energy" effect (by Steorn).

But I've never seen an induced pulse "morph" suddenly into a square wave. I'd suspect instrument or hookup error if it did, but I'd love to see a system where it happened.