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Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.

Started by synchro1, June 09, 2013, 11:07:49 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: synchro1 on December 01, 2014, 11:31:24 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtCN1GWqtqg

Twinbeard's generating 1000 volts from his transformer at .160 amps in his speed racer video from a 1/8th" sphere rotating at 3 million RPM with milliwatts of input from "Lenz Propulsion" in his output coil core resulting from BEMF field distortion feedback. So go solder up another dime store novelty from cost saver junk parts, like your solar bar bird, and keep making cheap wisecracks.

I'm so glad I have your permission to build stuff and show what I build. Meanwhile you just go on building your Perpetual Motion Machine that always stops when the power is removed. Don't bother making proper measurements, they just confuse you --- and refute you.

TinselKoala

@MH: There clearly needs to be a valid measurement of the actual rotation of the sphere. We all (some of us) know how easy it is to have a system response that is some fraction of the stimulating signal, which is why I generally show readings from multiple instruments using different techniques when I'm talking about rotational speed if there is any possibility of doubt. Still, the speed itself is not nearly as important as the FACT that the sphere inevitably slows to a stop once the external power is removed.
I haven't calculated the centrifugal force on a 1/8 inch sphere spinning at 3,000,000 rpm but I'll bet it is pretty large. Is it possible for it to hold together at that speed? I don't know that either. I don't know the details of the sensing system that these claimants use, either. Is there any assurance whatsoever that the sphere isn't producing two spikes per revolution, since it has two magnetic poles passing the sensor? Or is the sensor even independent of the driving frequency? So I can see several possible sources of error in the cited figure. It's possible that the magnet is spinning at some fraction of the driving pulses, and it's possible that the sensor system is "overcounting" the revolutions. Without proper validating measurements of the speed, independent of the drive system, we'll never know. Without a cooperative attitude on the part of the claimant ... what is even the point of speculating? Wishes, horses, beggars, etc. It's clear that anyone can _say_ anything they want to say. Proving it is another story altogether, and that responsibility rests entirely with the claimant. And if the claimant simply doesn't want to, or is afraid to, or just cannot figure out how to... well, that proves some things right there, doesn't it.




Hey Synchro, you are falling behind on your "thumbs down" campaign. I'm making them faster than you can keep up, even when you don't even watch them before you click on your only tool: the downward pointing thumb.


MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on December 01, 2014, 11:31:24 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtCN1GWqtqg

Twinbeard's generating 1000 volts from his transformer at .160 amps in his speed racer video from a 1/8th" sphere rotating at 3 million RPM with milliwatts of input from "Lenz Propulsion" in his output coil core resulting from BEMF field distortion feedback. So go solder up another dime store novelty from cost saver junk parts, like your solar bar bird, and keep making cheap wisecracks.
His measurement set-up is deplorable.  He has stray RF corrupting his measurements all over the place.  The scope does not even appear to be triggered properly. 

The 3 million rpm statement is extremely ignorant at best.  The ball would be ripped apart at that kind of speed.

GIGO

synchro1

The issue here is the liklyhood that an experimentor might sustain the risk of serious injury from run away self acceleration. Regardless of wether Twinbeard's scope readings are accurate or not, the obvious feature is that his spinner is accelerating inside the core of his output coil from forces other then the input to his power coil. I described my run away experience with the ceramic bearing spinner with the input amp meter needle "Pegged" solidly at zero.

The current GAP design has the potential to self power and accelerate to the disinigration point and needs a protective hood and a kill switch. I don't want you skeptics to nullify my cautioning. It's not outside the over all world of possibilities that a run away event will occur! I would cover the entire apparatus with a section of clear plexiglass pipe maybe 18 inches in diameter with a clear plexiglass cover glued on with a handle like a cake cover. I would also wire a kill switch between the output coil and capacitor. The positioner potentiometer should be placed outside the hood along with the kill switch and power pot.

MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on December 02, 2014, 10:26:20 AM
The issue here is the liklyhood that an experimentor might sustain the risk of serious injury from run away self acceleration. Regardless of wether Twinbeard's scope readings are accurate or not, the obvious feature is that his spinner is accelerating inside the core of his output coil from forces other then the input to his power coil. I described my run away experience with the ceramic bearing spinner with the input amp meter needle "Pegged" solidly at zero.
On what basis do you make those claims?  Twinbeard's measurements are garbage.  Take away those measurements and what do you see?  I see a crude motor.
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The current GAP design has the potential to self power and accelerate to the disinigration point and needs a protective hood and a kill switch. I don't want you skeptics to nullify my cautioning. It's not outside the over all world of possibilities that a run away event will occur! I would cover the entire apparatus with a section of clear plexiglass pipe maybe 18 inches in diameter with a clear plexiglass cover glued on with a handle like a cake cover. I would also wire a kill switch between the output coil and capacitor. The positioner potentiometer should be placed outside the hood along with the kill switch and power pot.
well then someone who wants to test the idea should construct a test set-up that has appropriate safety precautions built in.  It is not so hard to design an eddy current brake, nor is it so hard to just get some thick plexiglass.