New generator patent using environment temperature to generate power

[jbignes5]

 You know... No offense to some chatting here but you know nothing of what tesla was trying to do. He knew more about thermodynamics then any alive today.


Lets check the real info out here.


Oliver Nichelson Is the Author of the book "Nikola Tesla's later Energy Generation Designs"


In this book there is a great many references to facts and quotes from Tesla about his ideas in thermodynamics and how the one principle can be transposed to other areas like electronic phenomena.


Read it please:


http://home.earthlink.net/~drestinblack/generator.htm


If you go down to the part where this statement is,"It was also in 1893 that Tesla applied for a patent on an electrical coil that is the most likely candidate for a non-mechanical successor of his energy extractor. This is his "Coil for Electro-magnets," patent #512,340. It is another curious design because, unlike an ordinary coil made by turning wire on a tube form, this one uses two wires laid next to each other on a form but with the end of the first one connected to the beginning of the second one."
you'll understand more about the process and it's parallel works by other scientists at the time. Keep reading and it will become clear. Linde condenser is the mechanical form and the proof that it was indeed possible to create this system even in the form of electronic device.

[LibreEnergia]

You know... No offense to some chatting here but you know nothing of what tesla was trying to do. He knew more about thermodynamics then any alive today.


Lets check the real info out here.


Oliver Nichelson Is the Author of the book "Nikola Tesla's later Energy Generation Designs"


In this book there is a great many references to facts and quotes from Tesla about his ideas in thermodynamics and how the one principle can be transposed to other areas like electronic phenomena.


Read it please:


http://home.earthlink.net/~drestinblack/generator.htm

Nothing in that link causes me to rescind the assertion that Telsa, (like most people)  did not really understand the meaning of the 2nd Law.

Notice the part:  "Tesla stated he first started thinking about the idea when he read a statement by Lord Kelvin who said it was impossible to build a mechanism capable of abstracting heat from the surrounding medium and to operate by that heat."...

This is one consequence of the second law and that statement by Kelvin still stands today.

Tesla then goes on to propose a device that is not in any way in contradiction of the 2nd law. He describes using an existing environmental energy gradient (being the energy difference found between the sun incident on the earth and outer-space.)

Should such a machine be able to be constructed it would work and wouldn't violate any physical laws as we know them, as they existed then or now.

The language used by Kelvin is not particularly precise and perhaps is the reason for the confusion.

[forest]

Nothing in that link causes me to rescind the assertion that Telsa, (like most people)  did not really understand the meaning of the 2nd Law.

Notice the part:  "Tesla stated he first started thinking about the idea when he read a statement by Lord Kelvin who said it was impossible to build a mechanism capable of abstracting heat from the surrounding medium and to operate by that heat."...

This is one consequence of the second law and that statement by Kelvin still stands today.

Tesla then goes on to propose a device that is not in any way in contradiction of the 2nd law. He describes using an existing environmental energy gradient (being the energy difference found between the sun incident on the earth and outer-space.)

Should such a machine be able to be constructed it would work and wouldn't violate any physical laws as we know them, as they existed then or now.

The language used by Kelvin is not particularly precise and perhaps is the reason for the confusion.

Obviously you didn't read the full article. Tesla investigated many more possible methods of obtaining energy from background and has given one example how to use gradient without necessairly going to outer-space. The problem with all those is the required positive feedback which makes the method dangerous if not controlled properly. Somehow fortunately nature is giving us a lot of governons restricting such feedback in various clever ways.

[jbignes5]

Nothing in that link causes me to rescind the assertion that Telsa, (like most people)  did not really understand the meaning of the 2nd Law.

Notice the part:  "Tesla stated he first started thinking about the idea when he read a statement by Lord Kelvin who said it was impossible to build a mechanism capable of abstracting heat from the surrounding medium and to operate by that heat."...

This is one consequence of the second law and that statement by Kelvin still stands today.

Tesla then goes on to propose a device that is not in any way in contradiction of the 2nd law. He describes using an existing environmental energy gradient (being the energy difference found between the sun incident on the earth and outer-space.)

Should such a machine be able to be constructed it would work and wouldn't violate any physical laws as we know them, as they existed then or now.

The language used by Kelvin is not particularly precise and perhaps is the reason for the confusion.

Nothing really? Then you my friend have zero clue about anything at all then.


It is quite clear that the process that Linde experimented with was exactly the proof that Tesla needed to go forward with his own ideas about how to extract heat and or any energy for that matter from the surrounding medium. In the case of Linde he was using the lack of heat to create an even more lack of heat in a self cooling method to create liquid oxygen. This is the whole concept of the bifilar pancake coil that Tesla patented. Tesla knew that if a principle of one area was a foundation principle then it could be applied to any method to self cool or even self accelerate energy. This could only be done if the original idea was a foundation principle. The Bifilar coil is exactly that.


If we look into the bifilar coil even further we find that not only does it increase the voltage of a pulse, it does it without slowing the pulse down. In fact it speeds the pulse up because in a bifilar coil there is little to no inductive restriction. The only resistance in a bifilar coil is only the resistance of the wire itself and if you parallel coils that resistance can be made to nullify itself just like paralleling regular resistors.


Ever heard of the Gegene? This is yet another proof that Tesla was in fact Correct.


What I think you need to do is stop being sooo blind and open your eyes to the real facts. If this is a violation of the Thermodynamic laws then maybe those ideas are not true laws. Maybe Thermodynamics are merely guidelines when dealing with a specific situation. Maybe when dealing with permanent magnets and coils designed in this fashion, those guidelines don't apply?

[profitis]

@jbignes5..chek out the simplest example of a clear 2nd law breach..take a concave mirror and point it near an object in your room.the spot at the focus point will heat up above the average ambient temp.a total smash of kelvin,s crap generalisation.