Bedini, Lindemann, Bearden, Dollard -- What are their Accomplishments?

[tinman]

@tinman,wrong,you can put a karpen pile in a totaly stable temperature system and still get exact same energy thus your theory is disproved instantly.2)you can test for presence of gold ions dissolving into the acid and you will get zero result thus your other theory is totaly disproved.3)the oxford and gamboni piles are slow regular galvanic systems easily run flat or at least down by totaly short-circuiting them for some time,not true for the karpen pile,thus your theory is again null and void.4) im declaring it an overunity device and nobody can and will be able to prove otherwise,anybody can build and replicate for their own testing purposes. 5)the source of overunity energy in the karpen pile is a sinkhole for ambient heat in violation of the second law of thermodynamics,it runs smooth anywhere in the world,at any place,at any time,at any temperature,even siberia,ten thousand miles away from the nearest city powerline,case closed.im going to give you ten thousand american dollars @tinman,if you, even in theory,can prove me wrong,then you dont have to see my underwear.

As described by many-The cell transforms environmental heat to electric energy.
Enviromental heat come's from the sun,and the sun consumes fuel.
It's like i said,it converts one form of energy to another-it dose not produce energy,only converts it.
This means that it is not an overunity device,as the output of electrical energy is the same as the input of heat energy.It is a converter,just like a solar cell,wind generator or hydroelectric generator,where as you use energy from the enviroment to produce electricity.Here is an example of enviromental heat providing energy to do work.It takes 4186.8 joules of energy to raise 1 liter of water by 1 degree C. Take 1 liter of water from your tap on a warm day. Measure the temp of the water straight away. Now place that jug of water on the kitchen table,and take a temp reading 3 hours later.Lets say the temp rose by 3 degree's C. This would have taken 12560.4 joules of energy to achieve this. So where did that energy come from?-thats right,the enviroment. Do we call this an overunity event?,no as the source of the energy came from the sun,and the sun consumes fuel. Our jug of water is also a sink hole for ambiant heat.
Has the device ever been tested,other than in 2006 ?And lets look at the excuse for it not being on public display-The invention cannot be exposed because the museum doesn't have enough money to buy the security system necessary for such an exhibit.
Realy?-Dont tell me there wouldnt be many people and companies out ther that wouldnt put up the money to see the worlds first ""overunity machine""
Were dose it sit-in the directors office,outside of anyone's view-Mmm.
Is there any info avalible on the galvanometric motor>-how much current dose it draw?,what is the frequency of the pulse rate for this motor?
Can you prove that it indeed run's 24 hours a day? or are you going on asumptions and the words of the director?.
It's like i said,a so called overunity device has to be proven,not disproven. And up until now,you have provided no proof that it is an overunity device-nor has anyone else.
I stand by my claim-energy cannot be created,only transformed-therefore there can be no machine that produces more energy than it consume's.
The karpen pile has an energy source equal to ,or greater than the energy output.
So i challeng you to build it,and prove to us that it is an overunity device.Then to disprove enviromental heat as the source of power(which is provided by the sun)simply bring the temp down to 0 degree's C. Why should you build this device?,simple-you would be the first in the world to prove an overunity device could be built,and you sound very sure that it is an overunity device.
You may say it would cost to much to build,but there is thousands of dollars reward being offered to the first to show an overunity device. This is your chance to make it big,and prove to us all that it is what you say it is.

[tinman]

Now that thats out of the way,lets get back on subject.I would like to show another paragraph from the book,and also repeat one i have already submited.
The first being this from the intermediate sg handbook-slightly modified so as there is no copyrite issue's
Quote: B2 says B1 has developed an automatic discharge circuit that optimizes the
capacitor discharge and the battery charging process. It has repeatedly
produced the highest COPs for any SG Energizer that I have ever heard of.
That number is a COP > 1.25.

Here is another paragraph from the same handbook.
Quote: B2 say -None of us who have been involved with B1's
invention for a long time know how to measure the efficiency of the
complete system when the measurements are taken on the machine. All the
simple measurements of the Input and Output, that we know how to take
and calculate correctly, lead to erroneous conclusions about the real energy
economy of the system.

So how do they get a COP of 1.25 from admited ERRONEOUS CONCLUSIONS ?
Then there is PL's video-Perpetual Motion Reality.The thread at EF in reguards to this had this post made by PL.-Please do not post here unless you bought the video,or attended the conference.
Here is the sale's pitch for the video-
You not only get the history, but you will learn about examples of
machines that actually are Perpetual Motion machines
once you learn what this actually means. One thing is clear, the
"skeptics" have absolutely no idea.

PL will also reveal an original design of a theoretical
advanced energy machine that is intended to produce both mechanical
and electrical energy WITHOUT a prime mover!

As you would know,PL has not yet produced a Perpetual Motion machine.
And he says skeptics have no idea lol.

[profitis]

@tinman if your theory was true then the voltage and current would drasticly vary in your cupboard vs my cupboard,one place to another.this doesnt happen thus again your theory is totaly incorrect.if you have a thermocouple,which is designed for harvesting oscillating temperatures,that can produce anywhere near the karpen power density in my cupboard then i,l give you the ten thousand.karpen said uniform temperature,not oscillating temperature.oscillating temperature is not required.im the one offering the prize tinman.ten thousand dollars to anyone who can disprove the karpen overunity,even in theory.

[profitis]

@happy..no.im going to give ten thousand dollars to the first person who can make the karpen cell run flat to zero.

[tinman]

Unless the room that the karpen pile battery is in has climate controll,then the temp is not uniform.Warmer during the day than at night.The temp between anode and cathode will be uniform,but it is also so with the jug of water.Energy is required to raise the temp of the water in the jug,and energy is required to decrease the temp of the water in the jug.This will happen day after day,month after month and year after year.
Your saying the karpen pile is overunity,and that is saying it has a COP of 1> ,which means that it is creating energy. Sorry,but it dose not create energy<< that is your proof that it is not overunity,unless you think energy can be created?.An overunity device is a device that yet dosnt have a know energy input source,but it dose have one.Once that source is known,then it becomes an exotice energy device.In time it will become nothing out of the ordinary-much like the plane.. Ofcourse please feel free to prove that energy is being created by this device if you wish. Until then-sorry,but no cigar.
Can you please provide the details i asked for in my last post?.