Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell

[profitis]

@markdansie,we await kator,s results,i trust that he wont use urea and stick to baking soda.heres a hint: chemical potential/surface area=electro-chemical potential.

[Kator01]

@profitis,

powersource ? I can build one custom-build for this experiment, DC, puls DC, half-wave 50 Hz, full-rectified 100 Hz, Kiloherz-Range whatever works best.

I start with DC and use an 1 molar-solution first.

@markdansie: why not try it yourself ? To experience something - even if you are at failure - is the most valuable thing which could happen to you.
I have a clear impression that profitis knows his stuff, I trust him

I build many things in the past and many were failures.

By exposing yourself to direct practical experience - if done with the right attitude - your consiousness gets in close contact with the matter or the process you create. It worth more than a million dollars... but I also know that this path is not for everyone to follow.

@profitis: I will post a pic of my carbon-rods. Best method of  cleaning would be a HHO-flame, but unfortunately I dont have one. Will use propane. Thank you

added: calculation of moar-mass:

http://www.chemie.de/tools/


Regards

Kator01

[markdansie]

@profitis,



@markdansie: why not try it yourself ? To experience something - even if you are at failure - is the most valuable thing which could happen to you.
I have a clear impression that profitis knows his stuff, I trust him

I build many things in the past and many were failures.

By exposing yourself to direct practical experience - if done with the right attitude - your consiousness gets in close contact with the matter or the process you create. It worth more than a million dollars... but I also know that this path is not for everyone to follow.


Kator01

Hi I agree with personal experience. I built my first cells in 2006 and probably about 20 others over the years. I have been fortunate to have visited experimenters in Australia, NZ, USA Europe, Africa, Canada and several Asian Countries. I was even more fortunate to have visited several companies, and last year worked with a company where we spent over 200,000 USD on professional testing laboratories in Australia and USA. Is this experiment worthwhile? Probably yes. I have respect for Profits thoughts and imagination however he may lack the experience. You learn a lot when you work full time with a team testing on engine and chassis Dyno's for weeks on end.
I have also had access to data on over 5,000 vehicle on road tests from various companies.
So I have been very lucky and I believe have a very good understanding of HHO, its effects and water splitting. Am I an expert? No way but the engineers, experimenters and scientists who have assisted are.
And here is some free advice. In every case I saw, science and the laws of science held up. In fact we were able in the end to predict results like effects on combustion, exhaust gases, engine performance and optimum gas levels with uncanny accuracy. Its all based on sound methodology and data. So when I see claims made without credible data but emotive BS like your Pakistani friend, then I become the TK of HHO. I never profess to have any technical or electrical knowledge, but in this field...I doubt I have many peers with that amount of broad experience.
So I guess after 6 years, thousand of hours of hands on testing , working with over 100 developers, scientist and engineers  and travelling on over 50 international flights, I guess I have some practical experience.
My final bit of advice is no one has ever had a self running water powered vehicle or self lopped generator without another energy source or fuel being involved. There is no data, evidence or third party credible evidence to support that there ever was. I can show dozens of attempted scams however.
Kind Regards and have fun experimenting
PS how many units you built Profitis?

[ramset]

Kator01
Your attitude and presentation are inspiring..
A true Gentlemen.
@profitis
Thank you for offering the experiment and help... who knows perhaps we will learn something new?

Chet

[profitis]

@kator..yes start the experiment using one of those common variable voltage adaptors that you plug in the wall,try pulsed d.c.,try smooth d.c. Pulsed d.c. should give better result due to some kickback from the transformer,and allowing time for recombination of atomic hydrogen and oxygen into hydrogen molecules and oxygen molecules and their subsequent detatchment from the wet electrodes(this is important to this process).try low frequencies first to allow time for atomic recombination inbetween pulses.try using nichrome (from toasters) electrode pairs also,steel razor blades(may be easier to see the bubbles forming).our goal is to show that current passes through at under 1.23volts.use caustic soda preferencialy for this experiment.