Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell

[markdansie]

Mark
Why are you getting all up in Profitis Face and throwing a wet blanket on everything he says?

So much of what he says rings true with new directions in research ,why can't you just let
things progress in this experiment he is sharing with the very Skilled and knowledgable Kator01?

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Thx
Chet

i agree its a worthy experiment and has been done before.
My problem is is the broad statements without any substance. (which is tolerable)
But then the BS starts and if they get away with a little they tend to then try and get away with more.
I love these armchair people who claim practice experience but can never show data, photos or any other proof.
Kator01 I have no problems with and openly encourage him . I just caution him to be sure he knows the qualifications of the people he is taking advice form.


PS Profitis, you have been caught out BS and do not have anything to back your claims of expertise and experience. You are in my sights like Rosemary was with TK. I have 100% track record of success exposing BS. Just do not make claims you can not back up. You what makes it so hard to get any credibility in this field.


Kind Regards

[profitis]

@markdansie..yes,foreverlight.com emits green light,that gives roughly 1volt.now lets coat it with a phosphor that upconverts green light into ultraviolet light,bangbading,problem solved(maybe 1percent efficiency but if its a warm night then its rate will speed up).we can also split hydrobromic acid into hydrogen and bromine for the new flow-cell with 1volt.

[markdansie]

@markdansie..yes,foreverlight.com emits green light,that gives roughly 1volt.now lets coat it with a phosphor that upconverts green light into ultraviolet light,bangbading,problem solved(maybe 1percent efficiency but if its a warm night then its rate will speed up).we can also split hydrobromic acid into hydrogen and bromine for the new flow-cell with 1volt.

You should go do some home work on this really, You will not even get a fraction of 1% unless you use a gaseous environment at about 100 bars. Anther company in USA won an award for proposing this, then it did not work. You need a certain amount of push to get anything above an operational threshold.. IE go try and charge an I pone with 100 MA.
Kind Regards
Mark

[Kator01]

Folks,

the discussion is getting too agressive, so I like to bring in some point here which I had already researched 2 years ago in order to straighten out the discussion:

as profitis mentioned:

surface-area is the key... but I might add.. only in addition with the work-function of the electrode-material because with a lower work-function we bring the voltage-level down.

Here we are, its expensive but we have to look for similar specifications:
http://huntingdonfusion.com/en/tungsten-electrodes/54-techweld-multi-strike-thoriumoxidfreie-wolfram-elektroden.html

surface-area increases the current per square inch, work-function lowers the voltage. In addition :

the puls-method - as can be seen in the indian paper I posted before -  to avoid the build-up of the helmholz-barrier.

and a way ( I have not found it yet ) to remove the H-gas quickly from the electrode-surface.

Now another material: graphene

@markdansie: do you know the workfunction of graphene ( hexagonal carbon, thickness: one atomic layer ) ?

135 ±9 meV !!! ( milli-eV !!! ) ha... got it ?

german sientific paper here:

http://jahrbib.sulb.uni-saarland.de/frontdoor.php?source_opus=6508&la=de

So this might give you an impression of my modus operandi . After more than 30 years of research in the field of ZPE I do extensive research first ( myself) then built primary tests etc.

Whenever a person in a discussion gets more an more demanding ( number and facts ) I then get a certain impression.

If profitis or me would deliver the full data of what we found, what will you do then @markdansie ?

The path to follow in developing an efficient technique is layed out clear, but - as discussed with profitis in another thread - we need a budget to do it.
Why should I fiddle away with less successful methods if I know the path which offeres the best possible result so far ?

Here is the article a canadian citizen once sent me 5 years ago and I hope you can take it without feeling to get caught on this subject:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.aviation.military/_2JJLwBMjiE/yWEP3sftBPoJ

Regards

Kator01

[markdansie]

@Kator01
Yes you are right I have been overly aggressive on these posts so I will back down from further posts.
I like your experiment and admire yoru work.
I was reacting to bS being posted by someone else, but this is the wrong time and place to be discussing such issues.
my apologies
Mark