Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell

[markdansie]

send me dollars @markdansie and i,l show you my diamonds,they can make you rich.doppler is aware that the overpotentials of gaseous electrodes vary with electrolyte,surface area,and catalytic properties.whats more important than all of the above is the rate at which atomic h2 and o2 combine to form molecules and then detach from electrodes.this last property depends on the materials of electrodes.guys like aqua,meyer etc.are aware that it takes time for recombination to occur thus they used pulses.it does not take 1.23 volts to deposit one h2 and o2 bubble at a time on a 3m2.

My question was simple and you avoided the answer. I asked with your last HHO experiment what was the set up, and the data (electrical input in and gas output). Other useful bits would be type and spacing electrodes, materials for electrodes and chemical used in solution.
Robert , like everyone else only achieved about 85% efficiency. With our nano plates we had a football field in surface area and got 83%.
Stan of course cheated , and was caught red handed and was also charged with fraud which he could have defended if is showed a working device.
But back to you, please tell me in this HHO area your last practical experiment, the results and methodologies used. You speak with some authority on the matter but I suspect it is all theory. Go see some of the hydrogen forums in Europe they are years ahead of you. (you have not got to Ionization techniques yet or chaotic 2nd harmonic pulse combinations yet)
So please answer the questions.
Kind Regards
PS I support the experiments being conducted, I just doubt the expertise of the adviser

[markdansie]

give me a high-5 @kator.we just proved that water was split at 0,5volts and the back-emf that formed from the surface area coverage of h2 and o2 caused increased resistance to current flow.if you had detached and measured after the 0.5v run you wouldv seen voltage and current coming out of the fuel cell.try using 2 kitchen steel knives  now @kator,its dificult to see bubbles on the carbon due to clinging adsorption.

so what was the efficiency....gas out (also purity) and power in ?? PS go check out some university research in Southern USA 

[Pirate88179]

Mark:

What ever happened to that Dr. (Of medicine) in Florida that was using a certain frequency of RF to split water?  It was on the national news where he could sustain a flame in a test tube using this device.  I have no idea of the power in for the transmitter. (Probably huge)  The gas out was continuous enough to keep the flame at the top of the test tube full of water burning.  This hit the news here about 2 years ago I believe.  Possibly longer ago.

Bill

[profitis]

@markdansie..if i take a fuel cell and connect it to an electrolysis cell like what kator made earlier,and i put a lightbulb along any point in the wires so that the voltage drops down to 0,5volts like in kators cell and then i let that same current as kator allowed through,bingo,we get all of our hydrogen and oxygen back due to faraday,s beautiful law,not some of our hydrogen but all of our hydrogen and oxygen.this energy efficiency is clearly way above 100%.its only voltage and rate that we are concerned about due to faraday law so if dopper had used a fuel cell to effect electrolysis instead of the mains,what efficiency would he obtain?i only have to show that current passed through an electrolysis cell at under 1.23volts(the voltage of a fuel cell)and im already in the lead.what can i demonstrate that kator didnt demonstrate?greater rate at same voltage,thats all.im no expert on pulsing current tho and i know that will help. 

[markdansie]

Mark:

What ever happened to that Dr. (Of medicine) in Florida that was using a certain frequency of RF to split water?  It was on the national news where he could sustain a flame in a test tube using this device.  I have no idea of the power in for the transmitter. (Probably huge)  The gas out was continuous enough to keep the flame at the top of the test tube full of water burning.  This hit the news here about 2 years ago I believe.  Possibly longer ago.

Bill

I believe he died Bill and it was never more than 85% efficient. He used salt water.