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Smot with mutliple balls

Started by buddyboy, July 27, 2013, 12:55:32 AM

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profitis

@low-q..that doesnt explain what happens when i bring the ramp to the ball instead of the ball to the ramp.if i slide the ramp entrance toward a stationary ball flat on the ground the ramp entrance is attracted to the ball,work is gained,not expended.it depends on the angle that the ball or ramp entrance approach each other.put at the right angle there is gain.if there is gain at any angle then its a 2nd law violation,its inconsequencial to discuss coming in at the wrong angle or cosine.for you to be correct then you must show that at all angles of entry we must do extra work,highly unlikely as there will be a angle or angles of entry where we gain.

profitis

@libre..magnetism is not the same as gravity.a re-ordering of atomic dipoles are taking place in a magnetised object,not in a gravitised object thus the thermodynamics is more complicated,especialy when we have a rapidly changing magnetic field,which is exactly what happens in our smot ball.the distances have been shown to be very different live on camera.

Low-Q

Quote from: profitis on August 03, 2013, 10:08:05 AM
@low-q..that doesnt explain what happens when i bring the ramp to the ball instead of the ball to the ramp.if i slide the ramp entrance toward a stationary ball flat on the ground the ramp entrance is attracted to the ball,work is gained,not expended.it depends on the angle that the ball or ramp entrance approach each other.put at the right angle there is gain.if there is gain at any angle then its a 2nd law violation,its inconsequencial to discuss coming in at the wrong angle or cosine.for you to be correct then you must show that at all angles of entry we must do extra work,highly unlikely as there will be a angle or angles of entry where we gain.
Relatively close to the ramp you have attraction, but further away there is repulsion. A smot doesnt violate anything but ones opinions about its inner workings.

profitis

@low-q if there is repulsion at some stage on entry then the initial attraction cancels that energy out.did you forget to put initial attraction in your equasions?it makes no sense to argue this as you are assuming thers no way to get the ball into position A without  expenditure of energy ontop of m.g.h.

Low-Q

Quote from: profitis on August 03, 2013, 11:28:38 AM
@low-q if there is repulsion at some stage on entry then the initial attraction cancels that energy out.did you forget to put initial attraction in your equasions?
Nope. If I didn't, the hand must guide the ball all the way around the loop. The hand just put the ball in place. The ball could be placed at any position - even at a point where the ball is repelled. If a smot did cause the raise of potential energy by itself, the smot would accelerate till destruction within just a few seconds.