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Overunity Machines Forum



Smot with mutliple balls

Started by buddyboy, July 27, 2013, 12:55:32 AM

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profitis

well @low-q im still unconvinced.if as you say,extra energy is required to get the ball to the begin-point of acceleration,then if we were to release the ball just below that point we should see that extra energy manifest by a greater distance drop from entry side onto floor,yet we dont see it.

Low-Q

Quote from: profitis on August 03, 2013, 12:14:24 PM
well @low-q im still unconvinced.if as you say,extra energy is required to get the ball to the begin-point of acceleration,then if we were to release the ball just below that point we should see that extra energy manifest by a greater distance drop from entry side onto floor,yet we dont see it.
If I didn't use my cellphone to write my posts here I would explain in detail step by step what happens in a smots complete cycle. In short: Since gravity takes the ball back at the end of the ramp the total energy in the system is almost zero. Almost because the ball is accelerated horizontally and carries kinetic energy. That kinetic energy is taken back by the repulsive area in front of the smots bottom and the ball stops.

profitis

@low-q..the capability of a full loop is not in question here.the gain of a certain amount of free kinetic energy is under the spotlight when we let the ball drop out of the entrance and out of the exit we see a difference in length travelled by the ball.we must explain this difference in dropout energy.we must explain naudin,s visual result of 13% difference travelled length and your repulsion theory does not explain why the drop out the entrance is shorter,if your repulsion theory was correct there wouldve been equal drop-lengths m.g.h out both sides of the ramp.why isnt m.g.h.-lengths the same,i,l tell you why,thers a gain in m.g.h. out the exit thats why.   

Low-Q

You can have mysterious energy gain and energy losses if you dont look at the complete cycle. For the smot the magnetism are able to pull up the ball due to the relatively gentle slope. It pulls up the ball with little force on expence of longer time. Gravity pulls the ball back with greater force on expence of shorter time. Without gravity and the sudden end of the ramp, the ball wouldnt be able to leave the ramp at all. However, it drops and for this part energy isnt yet conserved. It finally will be conserved at the end of the complete cycle. If you cannot complete the cycle, the excess energy would only last temporary.

profitis

there doesnt have to be a full cycle @l.q. Just that we must use less energy on hoisting to acceleration point than what we get at decelleration point is all that matters.an electromagnetic equivalent is the inductor with its back-spikes,its just we wait for someone to collect efficiently.somebody must test the smot with nickel,cobalt,gadolinium ball,results may be surprising.