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Overunity Machines Forum



another Self looped Generator Claim

Started by markdansie, August 05, 2013, 08:50:24 AM

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Pirate88179

MH:

Come on now, you know that FE machines only work on special occasions and you can not schedule a demo because you never know when it will be working.  Take Rose's demo today, she said they achieved the anomaly prior to the camera being turned on and, of course, no one was watching when it happened. but it did really happen...really.

This fellow's machine outputs free energy, but of course, he has not run it in 6 months.  That makes total sense to me.  I would only want free energy for a little while, and then, I would gladly write my checks to the power company.  No need in being greedy.

You have to cut this guy some slack.  He just moved so the machine, of course, does not work now.  This is very typical of all free energy machines and you should have realized this by now.  For all we know, it may never work again...BUT, it was working before he shut it off so he could pay the power company.  Sterling would never back a device that didn't work....right?

Be patient and we will see the truth.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

TinselKoala

Here, I'll cut him some slack.
(Did we forget that he had it running and showing power output in the first, 11 minute video he did manage? So was the Nemi working then, just moments before the scheduled Smart Scarecrow demo... or what? Never mind, pay no attention to the working, then not working miracle machine.)
He built the machine in good faith according to his delusional patent, and it runs and you can plug stuff into it. But he may never have actually tried to run it with the batteries actually disconnected. Recall that in his previous claims he says he disconnects the starter...
So now he can't get it to keep running when the batteries are disconnected, and he thinks there is something wrong with the machine. But the new Nemi behaves the same as his old Nemi and it won't keep running when the battery lead is disconnected.
His friends, like "Pat" and "Jerry", probably have also never actually seen the thing running and powering a heavy load (because he didn't actually have a real load for it to power) and certainly never saw it running with no battery.
Then, just before the SS demo but after the eleven minute video, they unplugged the battery... and the machine stops. For the very first time? Yeah... right.  And then the scrambling began.

How's that for cutting slack? He's not a deliberate fraudster from the get-go like Mylow, rather, he's a deluded, poor experimentalist not averse to fooling himself by ignoring contrary results and misrepresenting actual performance,  like Ainslie.
What he is NOT is a genius inventor with a PhD in "thermonuclear reactors" from a religious diploma mill college that doesn't even have a hard science graduate program... and is now defunct.



MileHigh

TK:

This one is as close as it gets right now for my "sweet spot."  That being a high-profile free energy proposition that might be bankrolled by an investor.  In this case someone is allegedly going to fork over twenty thousand dollars to Chuck Pierce.

One more time, there are enough red flags to make it look like a May Day parade for Chairman Mao in the "old" China.

I don't know how you could cut this guy some slack based on what we have seen so far.  If the potential angel investor is following closely and checking around online, then this person should be having some second thoughts.  In many ways this is a repeat of Sterling's South African fiasco.

MileHigh

TinselKoala

Well, in spite of what people think of me, I always do assume error rather than fraud initially, and I look for ways that errors, simple or complex, could have produced the unusual results that claimants wind up claiming.

Like with Ainslie's original Quantum article: all the heating results can be fully accounted for by the 555 inverted duty cycle, which was an error due to her conceptual difficulty with "HI=OFF" at the drain of a mosfet with a high-side load. (Everything _after_ that, from Ainslie, though, was her deliberate fabrications compounded by her willfull arrogant ignorance.)

In the present case it's easy to see that the big battery bank could run the inverters for quite a while and even with a genuine 17 kW load-- which is a lot, it will heat up the garage in a hurry -- we could expect 20 minutes or so of runtime. So "Cutting some slack" and assuming "for the sake of discussion" that Chuck isn't another MyLOW.... I look for explanations of what he could be seeing, within the parameters of real science and accurate measurement.

So, maybe he worked and worked on the thing, it runs for a while then needs adjustment or repair, he's hooked 4 kW to it (while it draws 4.3 kW or whatever) and his theoretical projections say it should work. It's an easy line to cross between believing that it "should work" to believing that it "does work, only keeps breaking down". I think maybe Wayne Travis  crossed this line too, at one point, perhaps in good faith, and then realized there is more money in "developing" a free energy buoyancy drive than there is in actually "having" one that you can't demonstrate -- and the good faith went out the window while he praises God all the way to the bank.

So maybe, really, Chuck never actually tried it with an adequate load.... and the batteries disconnected. 

/cutting slack mode


But in my heart of hearts I believe he's a fraudster, gaming Sterling just like Yildiz did, only with less hair.


tinman

@TK
Did i miss something with the yildiz motor?-was it found to be a fraud?.
This generator /motor setup was debunked with the first video i watched,and there mathmaticle brilliance. It's plane to see that it's there new amp measuring formula that make's this device an OU machine. If we all use this new formula,we all will do much better in making that OU machine a reality.
This reminds me so much of UFOpolotics prony brake formula,where as my "off the shelf "DC motor came in at 132% efficiency. Im happy to sell this motor to anyone that offers $100 000-or more.