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Overunity Machines Forum



Self spining magnet rotor.

Started by synchro1, August 08, 2013, 11:57:37 AM

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TinselKoala

I must have missed Fast Freddy the first time around. I see that a lot of people have an emotional history with him.

All I can say at this point is that compressing mixed H and O gases is _dangerous_ and has resulted in many explosions among the HHO tinkerers, even killing a couple of them.

markdansie

@Tk
Freddy sold a lot of exclusive licences to many people, in some cases for tens of thousands.
His original partner blew 25.000 plus before leaving in a screaming heap,
He is a con man through and through
Mark

Liberty

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 08, 2013, 06:05:13 PM
Facepalm. It is NOT self-spinning, he is pumping it with the handheld stator.

I wonder how many times a day someone playing with magnets re-invents the Minato Motor.

This is a neat implementation of the autokinetic effect, but all of the rotation of the thing comes from the input of Mister Hand. With these kinds of devices just the effort of trying to hold the stator magnet still will be enough to cause pumping of energy into the rotor. Mount the stator to a rigid mount and no matter where you put it, the rotor will stop rotating.

The guy gets a point or two for his enthusiasm, but he gets points off for the political agenda and the self-hypnosis... and the evident lack of background research.

Gahh.... This time I won't even link to _my_ video of a Minato motor pumped by the stator motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdfPj7wOuQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWK40g3L3F4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veTMdySMDDg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bwtgnr1Fm4

ETA: The true Minato motor, the patented version, uses repulsion between the stator and rotor magnets. I think the "ice cream" motor uses attraction, so you have to be careful not to get too close or the "ice cream" will get pulled up into the "cone" stator, as you see in the video.

These types of "non-motor demos" have become easy to spot, when you see the demo shows magnets near each other, being held manually (adding movement by hand) in order to create a weak spin, powered by Mr. hand. 

The following magnet motor is a real actuator assisted motor, and derives a good deal of it's drive from the permanent magnetic fields.  Different designs of the motor can use more magnetic field drive with much less power consumption.  This is a design that is solid and repeatable, not powered by Mr. hand and is not just powered by the actuator.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LibertyMagnetMotor

Liberty
Liberty

"Converting Magnetic Force Into Motion"
Liberty Permanent Magnet Motor

TinselKoala

That's pretty clever (the earliest video 6 years ago shows the principle of operation, which is not clear in the other vids).

You say, though, that it "is not just powered by the actuator."
What else is powering it, then, and do you have any evidence that it is not powered "just" by the speaker-driven actuator?

Why don't you just use a cam or other mechanical linkage running off the rotor, to drive the speaker cone, and then instead of pumping power into the speaker coil, you can get power _out_ of it. Right?


synchro1

That blows my mind! I'm undergoing some kind of spiritual rebirth.