Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[MileHigh]

So, in six months will anybody be able to demonstrate Clarence's system working as claimed, including Clarence?  I am not very optimistic.  Clarence still won't answer the real questions, so at this point why not assume that he never will.  Seemingly he is a sheepherder now.

You can see how TK with his new scope could give a lot of you a sobering lesson in reality.  I asked MarkS about running the system no load to verify the alleged loop self-charging but so far no response.

This simple and realizable test can be done with a four-channel DSO.  All that you have to do monitor the energy output by the smart battery charger and the energy output by the battery.

[MileHigh]

Clarence:

Hello @ ALL,

The transformer winding remains the same standard wiring that bridgeport magnetics uses. however after the wire extends so far out of the primary as to be practical I stepped it  up to a #10 awg tinned multistrand wire.

Now why do you suppose ole sneaky Clarence would do something like that?
PRACTICAL!
that word is my second name in life! after a short period during building
the SMALL wire leads would BREAK off at their terminals     AND    they wern't LONG ENOUGH to reach where I needed to CONNECT THEM!!!!!!!!! ALSO #10 has less resistance.

Get a grip people! Anything I do is ALWAYS PRACTICAL!

Thanks for listening!
 
Clarence

So all that you can do is talk about the "mechanics" of your alleged system, just like everybody else in the threads?  You are supposed to be the "guru" that can talk about how the system is supposed to work.

So you are saying, "Go out and buy the right nuts and bolts and then go forth and prosper?"

That's pure BS.

The 16-ton elephant in the room is for you to answer the questions about run times and all that extremely important stuff.

Do something practical instead of sitting on your ass.

MileHigh

[phoebus33]

you did not understand that Clarence no longer meet in part thanks to you then you can write lines and lines ....

[MileHigh]

I was just expressing the fustration that I am sure many people feel.  For the thousandth time, a person making claims of a free energy machine refuses to provide any credible data.  He has supposedly "moved past" that phase and he waits for you to spend thousands of dollars and dig up your backyards.

Clarence is a fully gown man and he should be able to meet the challenge of defending his proposition, presenting credible data, and answering questions, even if they are tough questions.

[TinselKoala]

@MH:
There is only one thing wrong with your measurement scheme, and that is the _lack of availability_ of a "working" system to measure. I could pound as many copper rods into the ground in my backyard, use the same color wires as Clarence, buy a thousand-dollar inverter and all the rest, and when I connect my 4-ch scope (or the Clarke-Hess power analyzer) to do power and energy budget testing and find that the "captor" doesn't work as claimed.... "someone" will just say I don't have the right ground rods arranged properly, or I have one turn too few or too many on a transformer, or that I'm falsifying my data because I work for TPTB or not holding my mouth right or something similar.

There is only ONE THING preventing proper testing and evaluating of such a claimed system, and it's not whether or not I have a 4-channel scope to play with. (At the moment I don't, but that's another story.) What is preventing the proper evaluation is the attitude of the CLAIMANT. I don't know where Clarence lives, but I'm quite sure of two things: 1) There are people who would be happy to visit him, wherever he lives, and perform proper tests using proper equipment and protocols on his allegedly working system; and 2) Clarence will never allow such a visit, or if he does, the system will have broken down due to a part failure just before the test team arrives, and won't be fixable until after the test team leaves.

Any testing and evaluation, to be valid, must be performed on a system that is allegedly working to begin with. It does no good to test a nonworking attempt at replication, except to prove Yet Again that a working replication is, in all cases known about, impossible.