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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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earthenergy

 if I get DC-AC inverter of say 5kW and ground one end so it become neutral while the other become hot terminal - is there any current flowing to ground when inverter is loaded or unloaded ?


Forest, I have been able to take one lead of a DC to AC inverter to ground and light a bulb. Therefore any ac current, whether it is swer, single phase, or inverter supplied AC current, will run to the ground with just one lead from the ac source.

MenofFather

Quote from: FatBird on December 31, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
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Below is some of the patent wording I copied out for this post. 

1.  Here, the earth wire 5 is wrapped around the continuous loop wire 4, feeding it additional electrons captured from the ground. The ends of wire 4 are connected together to form the loop,
     and that connection also forms the positive side of the output (where a DC output is being produced). The magnetic field produced by the current flowing in wire 3, acts on the electron flow
     coming from the earth, but it does not provide any of the electric power flowing in wire loop 4.  The current flowing in wire 3 can be tiny, without affecting the power output.

2.  The earth wire (5, shown in blue) which is merely wrapped around wire 4 and not directly connected to it as the electron-transfer link is by induction.  With this arrangement, the current
     circulating in the closed loop wire 4, attracts more electrons from the ground, flowing through the wrapped connection of wire 5, into wire 4, increasing the current flow there by a major
     amount.  Wire 3 (input) can have an alternating voltage applied to it in order to get alternating current in wire 4 (output), but understand that the current flowing in wire 4 is not the result
     of the current in wire 3.
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Using this words and patent schematics, I draw schematic.


MenofFather

Answering to this piture question ansver is yes. http://www.overunity.com/13721/energy-from-the-ground-self-powered-generator-by-barbosa-and-leal/dlattach/attach/131386/image//
Ground always is positive. Hight voltage always is negative. Ground is like warm, hight voltage is like cold.

MenofFather

Quote from: earthenergy on December 31, 2013, 05:19:14 PM
But after I re-read the patent wording several times, he keeps referring to THE LOOP.  So if I am reading this right, wires 4
are SHORTED TOGETHER and together they form 1 wire of the output!!


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In the latest video they appear to connect the ground to the bare copper of the closed loop. It must have proven to work better. (wondering why they didn't test that before filing a patent)

Yes you can get an output connecting one lead of the load to the closed loop and one to either side of the primary. I have done that and it will light a bulb, the ground must be connected, but I do not see any magic happening. It appears to be current going to ground from the primary. I may be missing something though.

I have also been testing off grid with a square wave inverter. Their setup may now require pure sine wave as they talk about working with the hydro company rather than eliminating them. It also seems that their first success and demos were with a battery/rectifier/inverter setup and now they are plugging into 220 from the wall instead, so that seems out of place.... is the single phase 220 pure sine wave being supplied to the primary where the very high efficiency begins to happen?

Also beginning to wonder if the primary coil and/or the closed loop coil have to be tapped midway/halfway
You can put, How I understand DC curent, but if you want get AC curent on output, you must put in AC curent, but must work and with DC curent, that sounds wery strange, but in pictures is plus and minus and patent speaking about DC curent.In DC version primary must have more turns.

MenofFather

Quote from: forest on January 01, 2014, 10:59:18 AM
There is one thing I cannot understand, maybe I'm dumb. If you look at Kapanadze green box video they measured over 20 amps flowing from or to ground via cable connected to water pipe (ideal ground if all pipes are long metalic underground).


I know that it's common to use ground connection as safety factor for breakers and sometimes ground is connected to neutral (here in Europe in case of badly planned installation or just right near the meter connection). I'm not EE and I'm curious : if I get DC-AC inverter of say 5kW and ground one end so it become neutral while the other become hot terminal - is there any current flowing to ground when inverter is loaded or unloaded ? Is there any case when this current is flowing ? What if someone disconnect this ground connection and take the bare wire into his hand while inverter is still powering load ?
If you use inverter and put one end it to ground, you not get any curent in this wire, maybe only wery small. And if you with one hand use one end of inverter, with other hand grounded cable, you not get basicly any shock, only maybe wery small. But if you use socket phase 220 volts in one hand and with other hand take cable conected to ground, then you be killed by electroshock instantly. Because you basicly put in you hands two ends of 220 volts AC.