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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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Pirate88179

Quote from: e2matrix on August 23, 2013, 09:16:11 PM

I'm not exactly sure what is the right kind yet but I'm guessing it might be to do the 2 turn wrap with Iron wire instead of copper.  Haven't tried that yet but I will.

Iron wire? Copper wire?  If wound bifilar then this sounds a lot like the work of Nathan Stubblefield with his earth batteries.  Of course, if it is not real than the relationship does not matter.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

TinselKoala

Don't forget the insulation. Different colors of insulation have different effects.

That is what screws people up when they start working with electronic circuits and house wiring. In electronic circuits the black insulation always means Ground, and in house wiring the black insulation always means Death. So it's no wonder people get confused -- not to mention the electrons.

And don't get me started about the red insulation.

That's why I always use bare wires whenever possible. A coil wound with completely bare wire has some very interesting OU effects, you should try it.

e2matrix

I take it that's a bit of sarcasm TK but true on the color of wiring insulation.   I agree it was a bad choice someone made along the way to have white for ground or neutral in house wiring with black the hot side considering standard battery or electronics is black for ground or negative with red for positive.   And of course there is the other hot leg in 240 VAC house wiring being red normally.   I started with electronics when I was very young but later wired 2 houses completely so I got used to both systems but still think it's something that could have been done differently when deciding on NEC wire colors.

Pirate88179

I grew up playing with dc.  (car stereos, etc)  Then, I got into house wiring.  I asked the electrician i was working with if the white was the ground.  He said no, it was the neutral and has no relationship to ground whatsoever.  Fine.  What did I see at the breaker box?  All the white wires went to a bus bar that was....yes....tied to ground.  I agree the colors could have been handled better.  Then I got into 240 3 phase at our machine shop...that is really weird.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

TinselKoala

Sarcasm? Moi?

The problem with ill-specified, or no, testable hypotheses and hand-waving explanations and so on is that it is always possible for the claimant to claim your "replication" failed to produce the needed results because you didn't duplicate some essential feature. What, your TPU doesn't work? Maybe it's not exactly the right diameter. Your MyLOW replication won't spin on its own? Well you can see that the magnets need to be precisely located to the hundredth of a millimeter. Your Brazilian selfpowered energy from the ground doesn't work even though you followed the patent exactly? You are clearly on the wrong side of the planet, it only works in the Southern Hemisphere.