Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[tinman]

If there is no such thing  "free energy" - why than so many brilliant researchers and inventions were killed by oil-barons mafia ??  List of names is so long......

I bet - next oil-barons move will be "Copper Rod Bill" for every copper rod pricked in ground. 

and than "Sun Bill" for every Sun Ray Light...... 

Do you have proof that anyone was killed because they had a free energy device?. You first have to prove they had a free energy device-->that now puts a stop to that-dosnt it.

Will any accurate power measurements be taken soon by !anyone! that is working on this B&L contraption?,or are we all racing off to buy copper rod's

Sorry guy's,but WTF.
Havnt you all been through this before--->buy,buy,buy,,build,build,build-->end result  0
So far i see another lightbulb OU device-->im waiting for the super bright LED's to show up any time soon.

[mscoffman]

Clarence,

You say you are running completely off the mains (no connection to live or neutral). What ampere rating are your batteries that power your inverter?

If Clarence wants to talk about the battery he is using, I would be interested hearing. Automobile sized batteries are from 50Ah to 80Ah
and go up to 120Ah to 150Ah for larger size all at 12VDC. Ah = "ampere hours" when you multiply Ah 12.0Vdc you get units of watt hours.
Battery voltage is variable though, so this conversion is only approximate. So you are talking in the area of ~1KWH total per battery.

One of the secrets of Clarence's success is that his new battery charger is really smart and can float a battery that is being charged
from a second source without damaging it. Lead/Acid batteries hate deep discharges and they hate being left in a partial state
of charge and so his battery charger will attempt to resolve those conditions as fast as possible. Acid/Lead hate these conditions
much more than Lithium batteries and these can really shorten the Acid/Lead batteries lifetime.

Batteries are manufactured as classes for a certain fixed duty, so for this service you want...if your battery
wears out prematurely try...

"120AH"
"Deep Discharge capability"
"Non-Engine starting battery (rated in CCA)"
"12Volt, Golf Cart service"

use "flooded acid/lead" with the caps or use VLRA/AGM sealed batteries not Gel Cells

Golf cart service sounds anomalous but being able to handle mechanical impacts and having
the internal lead parts be very robust is important. Plus these batteries are often abused during
recharging so if you don't abuse them they will work out well.

Most Battery chargers are designed to handle supercapacitors, so if you don't care about
hold-up after main power failure you can use those in place of batteries. Again it the behavior
of the super battery charger that saves the day, it is really the DC supply to be using in this
instance.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[Clarence]

Clarence,

You say you are running completely off the mains (no connection to live or neutral). What ampere rating are your batteries that power your inverter?

Hello Hoppy,

I only use ONE battery at present and it is an AC DELCO brand #48PG  -770 cold crank amps - 70 AmpHour  . I power the XANTREX TRUE CHARGE 2 by    the    OUTPUT     of    the    Captor!
the charger KEEPS the battry charged and thus self powers the unit!

Thanks and cheers.

Clarence

[Void]

I was checking the company which produce your transformers, but I can't find any power ferrite ones.

Hi mrzlica. I summarized the info on the toroid and inverter and battery charger in the following post.
There is a link to the webpage which has the info on the toroids that Clarence is using as well.
Reply #1058:
http://www.overunity.com/13721/energy-from-the-ground-self-powered-generator-by-barbosa-and-leal/msg444124/#msg444124
All the best...

[Void]

Hi Void,
In the same way as the ground loop situation you describe may well apply to Clarence's device, I also think this may well be the basis of Kapanadze's 'box' setups.

Hi Hoppy. To be clear, the mains ground loop issue should only be an issue for the B&L device if it
is being powered from the mains. If it is being powered from a battery and inverter then
the mains should not be a factor at all in the power that the device is producing.

The only way that I can see that Kapadnadze could have been making use of the mains is if he had
a hidden wire from his device to the mains hot wire, but people who have seen Kapadnadze's device
up close seem to have confirmed that there are no hidden wires. Just the earth ground wire(s). If you
just have one wire running to earth ground from the device as in the 'aquarium' device, I can't see any way
that you could be powering from the mains.
All the best...