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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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memoryman

Well said, ramset.
I live in the Greater Toronto Area of Ontario and offered to evaluate; some are such obvious fakes/scams, such as Magnacoaster (only 30 mins away) or GDS (~2hrs away) that I won't bother. Always open to invitations...

nelsonrochaa

Like i said in other occasions : testing and observation is the best way to achieve something not only wait for the gold  fall to people.
Why most people only see the word overunity like a unique objective ? And improve the actual system conversion that exists ? Is not important ?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UUiDqaTOWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7acRk8Z6-U

forest

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on April 04, 2015, 04:48:44 PM
Like i said in other occasions : testing and observation is the best way to achieve something not only wait for the gold  fall to people.
Why most people only see the word overunity like a unique objective ? And improve the actual system conversion that exists ? Is not important ?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UUiDqaTOWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7acRk8Z6-U




I see you are experienced with such setups...Did you checked some kind of BEMF supression circuit ? I wonder if a transil or zener diode plus resistor connected in shunt to the choke coil will limit the spike generated when coil is disconnected ?




P.S. of course you are correct

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: forest on April 04, 2015, 05:03:34 PM



I see you are experienced with such setups...Did you checked some kind of BEMF supression circuit ? I wonder if a transil or zener diode plus resistor connected in shunt to the choke coil will limit the spike generated when coil is disconnected ?
P.S. of course you are correct


Hi , in my opinion the bemf suppression not means cancel the bemf in the meaning of the word .  I say to many times that bemf can do work. In this particularly subject  on this barbosa circuit  or how people like to call , i did my own tests to months ago , is not a overunity circuit like people want , but if is good designed i can say that circuit will improve the output efficiency of inductive loads in  80% and half in resistive loads. but for me is more than good for the most people not :)
About the original  barbosa design circuit is designed to be a saturate reactor with feedback , the loop is only to saturate the ferromagnetic core ! ferro-Resonance .
But people only want to see AMPs in the loop  secondary and measure high amps  for What ? For dissipate energy in heat, lose efficiency in the process conversion?

Is all about conversion process. Electricity is not energy but a result of a conversation of one state of energy to another .
Electricity is only the product :)

Look in to this video and see how so different can be the way we can do "something abnormal" in conventional electricity . is the process of conversion .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is9fOtBeo_I

Most process of conversation lose efficiency in commutation system because the bemf will act like a drag , this is the common reason to the meaning " BEMF supression" and because will burn sometimes :) common components .
This Bemf will return to source with a cmf effect that create resistance , this  will go heat the commutation system make lose energy , so reducing the efficiency of overall circuit.

But of course this is only a point of view  much personal.:)
People have to see some of this "things" with own eyes , because sometimes is the only manner to have reasons to question the common way of thinking.

Good luck for everyone
   


memoryman

"Electricity is not energy" Really? Since when? One of the units of energy (Joule) is equivalent to one Watt.second
For example, electricity can be converted TO and FROM: heat, light, sound.