Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

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Some extended patents useful information part 3 

[Void]

@Clarence, in my test described above, I wasn't trying to test with the two transformer B&L configuration that you are experimenting with.
As I stated in my comment above, I was trying a very basic preliminary test with the one transformer configuration shown in B&L's patent,
to just get an idea of what sort of power draw and current magnitudes would be involved with a 3 turn secondary, since I
don't have specific info on what sort of turn count B&L may have used on the secondary, if they even ever actually did experiment
with a one transformer variant of their device. Sometimes in patent applications people will describe other 'embodiments' of their
'invention' that they may not have actually tried, but they want their patent application(s) to cover as many bases as they can in case
some of the other variations might actually work. Anyone know if B&L actually demonstrated a one transformer configuration?
I guess if they kept the transformer hidden in a box in their demos then that may be unknown.   

All the best...

[nelsonrochaa]

@Clarence, in my test described above, I wasn't trying to test with the two transformer B&L configuration that you are experimenting with.
As I stated in my comment above, I was trying a very basic preliminary test with the one transformer configuration shown in B&L's patent,
to just get an idea of what sort of power draw and current magnitudes would be involved with a 3 turn secondary, since I
don't have specific info on what sort of turn count B&L may have used on the secondary, if they even ever actually did experiment
with a one transformer variant of their device. Sometimes in patent applications people will describe other 'embodiments' of their
'invention' that they may not have actually tried, but they want their patent application(s) to cover as many bases as they can in case
some of the other variations might actually work. Anyone know if B&L actually demonstrated a one transformer configuration?
I guess if they kept the transformer hidden in a box in their demos then that may be unknown.   

All the best...

Hi void , i test with only transformer  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ob1GY6dXs

[Clarence]

@Clarence, in my test described above, I wasn't trying to test with the two transformer B&L configuration that you are experimenting with.
As I stated in my comment above, I was trying a very basic preliminary test with the one transformer configuration shown in B&L's patent,
to just get an idea of what sort of power draw and current magnitudes would be involved with a 3 turn secondary, since I
don't have specific info on what sort of turn count B&L may have used on the secondary, if they even ever actually did experiment
with a one transformer variant of their device. Sometimes in patent applications people will describe other 'embodiments' of their
'invention' that they may not have actually tried, but they want their patent application to cover as many bases as they can in case
some of the other variations might actually work. Anyone know if B&L actually demonstrated a one transformer configuration?
I guess if they kept the transformer hidden in a box in their demos then that may be unknown.   

All the best...

Hello Void,

To put an end to your doubts about their ONE toroid module...........YES I have built it WITH PERFECT SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!
the AC clamp meter amperage was about a consistant 126-7 amp reading!!!!!!!!
They ONLY used this SINGLE toroid device as a LARGER OUTPUT module BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A ........LARGER.........WIRE GUAGE OR IT WILL BURN UP!!!!!!
to be able to use the toroid you showed you NEED to unwind the secondary coil windings AND GET RID OF THEM!!!!!!!      THEY WILL KILL WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO!!!!!!
there is a DEFINITE WAY the secondary needs to be wound OR IT WONT WORK!!!!!!!
I will purposely NOT show ANYONE HOW IT IS WOUND  at this time because you would just be cheating your self of MUCH VALUABLE EXPERIENCE AND COMPREHENSION if you do not build the TWO
TORID LOOP as I just previosly posted!!!!

After you make that TWO TOROID LOOP and achieve the 1.3  measured amps on the loop THEN I will explain to you IN DETAIL how you have achieved that success!!!!!  KNOW that once you have
achieved that success there is NOT ONE DAMN THING in the world that can stop you from having success with ALL THE REST of the program AND THE LARGER MODULES!!!!!!
                                                                                                                ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE PEOPLE

                                                                           BUT I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO KNOWINGLY LET YOU TAKE TAKE A SHORT CUT!



Void I also would require a photo of your plain TWO toroid loop set up!!!! in this case YOU can be the leader of the pack for a change!!!!!  wont that be nice. 


Thanks and Cheers!

Clarence

Cl

                                                                     

[Void]

@Void
Try with only 1 or 2 turns.

Hi cheors. With one turn for the secondary, the input power to the transformer measured around 250 Watts
on the inline wattmeter, and the current on the one turn secondary measured around 380 to 400 Amps.
The 4 AWG wire became very hot after about 20 seconds or so.
All the best...