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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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MileHigh

Quote from: Void on April 10, 2015, 06:42:10 AM
Hi Pirate88179. The term over unity just implies that the power being delivered to the load is greater than the
power being supplied by the system's power source. It in no way at all implies that the excess energy is
coming from nowhere. If there is excess energy in a system beyond what the power source is supplying, then
that energy most certainly would have to be coming from somewhere. That would definitely still be over unity however.
It doesn't matter where the excess energy is coming from. As long as the average output power divided
by the average input power is greater than 1 (1 = unity), then that would most definitely be over unity. It
has nothing whatsoever to do with where that excess energy might be coming from. :)
All the best...

"Somewhere" and "nowhere" are synonymous in the above statement.  It absolutely matters where the excess energy allegedly comes from.  We have all sorts of ways of detecting and measuring energy in it's various forms.

The problem is that the pitch is always, "It's not over unity, the 'open system' is just getting energy from some new unknown energy source."  That is a total cop-out because for years and years this statement is made for so many unproven alleged over unity systems.

You saw my marked up diagram showing the five points where you can measure the power flows?  Why did I do that?  It's because if you follow the power flows then you should be able to see where the "excess energy enters the system."  You don't even have to detect the mysterious elusive "unknown form of energy."  All that you have to do is measure exactly where it manifests itself in electrical form in your circuit.   You should literally be able to measure say a coil and say, "Look, here is my measurement of 50 watts going into the 'magic' coil, and here is my measurement of 100 watts coming out of the 'magic' coil, this must be the entry point for the unexplained energy.  But you never see that.  Real voltage and current waveforms, in and out.

You should be able to pinpoint exactly where this happens in an Akula or Kapanadze circuit.  But it is never shown, and likewise it is never asked for by the believers.  It's just a viscous circle, a merry-go-round of the absurd.  Essentially the same phenomenon is happening in this thread.

memoryman

void, you are using the terms 'energy' and 'power' as though they are the same: they are not.

TinselKoala

Quote from: tinman on April 10, 2015, 10:40:31 AM
At these low power's,i dont think there will be any explosions.
My standard battery charge put in 4 amp's @ 13.4 volts-and no bang. So 2 watts in isnt going to make fire works,i wouldnt think. :D
All you need is a tiny spark to set off a hydrogen explosion.... That's why it is always a good idea to have proper ventilation when charging LA batteries so that you don't get a buildup of hydrogen, neither inside the battery itself nor nearby outside the battery, like a battery box. And the power of the explosion will depend on the amount of hydrogen you've built up, not on the tiny spark that sets it off.

What happens if your capacitor or bridge rectifier fails shorted?

TinselKoala

Quote from: ramset on April 10, 2015, 10:43:03 AM
Tinsel
yes some get a chance to have life experience ..and others don't get the privilege of growing old.
Myself being trained in Aircraft [Just one of "your" many skills] playing next to a screaming  prop
winging by your ears ,,,well you pick up a certain mind set ,or ...?

so you do have that edge..

.

respectfully

Chet

Heh.. I used to run the test cells at a major overhaul facility. You know you're alive all right, when you are adjusting the fuel injection pump on a 6-cylinder Continental on the test stand, running a six-foot propeller at 2300 RPM inches away from your head and hands....

ramset

How about 4 rows of seven .... :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-4360_Wasp_Major

we had these in school [military donations] ,if your head was not screwed on right
there wouldn't even be dust left...[prop testing inspection and adjustment]

but as I was telling Brad ,sometimes life gives us a little reminder to be careful
and not so cavalier when it comes to safety  [I got one  :o]

Try very hard to Keep a clear head !!
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma