Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[MileHigh]

So Clarence has 60 ground rods pushed... not BEATEN, but pushed... into the ground in his yard?  I just have one question:

Who mows his lawns?

We can't see pictures on EF, so who knows?  My gut feeling is that he only posted pictures of a few of his grounding rods (which someone mentioned) but there may be no pics of his yard.  That puts the actual implementation by Clarence in the "show me the data" category.  Unless heaven forbid someone cross-pollinates us with a pic.

[MileHigh]

Wow, look from the user Dagon on EF we finally get some ground resistance data:

I've experimented with ground energy for quite a few years now - 2 grounds, one 60ft (N) approximately 55 sq ft of area into the aquifer and the second (S) 30ft away 8ft deep with an area of 15 sq ft. Resistance between them is 5 ohm.   On an earlier page someone mentioned using a meter to measure ground resistance - not going to happen - the best way is to use a battery and an amp meter then calculate it.

I am not sure about the meaning for "55 square feet" and "15 square feet" but my takeaway from this is that two ground rods 30 feet away from each other measure five ohms resistance.  So I think that my estimate that a bunch of ground rods like Clarence is talking about with the closer spacing would have less than one ohm resistance between the two sets is reasonable.   I am assuming "average" soil conditions.

Meanwhile, super sycophant BroMikey is not having a good night.  There was some doubt expressed and another request for hard data from Clarence.

P.S.:  I think I figured it out.  The square footage is the outside contact surface area of each rod.  Needless to say, the very long (like really long!) rod has 55 square feet of contact surface area.

[MileHigh]

Don't make any jokes when going through the airline check-in.

[Pirate88179]

So, Clarence is using 880 sq. ft. of grounding rods?  (16x55)

Or, we can't even determine that as we do not know if his are 15 feet long or not do we?

I wonder if you arranged all of those grounding rods into a crop circle type shape, if it would improve the output?

Bill

[skribat]

Dear MH,

I think you are being foolish and pedantic, like some comical condescending politician, such a shame that you are so shortsighted and 'sans espoir'.  I think this is unfortunate as you could have been using your knowledge in a constructive manner and assisting to take this project forward onto a higher level. 
There is more than enough 'common knowledge'  to suggest that the system is in in part at least viable and showing results.  It would seem there is some phenomena in the system which is not obvious and fully understood.

Maybe the B&L Captor was not the best choice of project/ device for replication, however, it was the one chosen by Clarence and he had his own specific reasons for this and I can understand them. Personally I would have chosen the Kapenadze because it better suits my facilities. Kapenadze' device now has financial backing which has taken it forward into production of 'high output' devices and we should all expect that this will also be kept 'out of reach of the people' who must continue to pay.

Perhaps you could think back to the development of solar energy systems which in the beginning were almost hopeless. Five generations on they still fail to meet our needs under all circumstances. No doubt development will continue and they will eventually become viable in less than optimal circumstances/ locations.  I think this will also be the case with 'energy from the ground' devices.

I can understand your viewpoint and your reasoning but please don't let your education cloud your judgement, imagination not just necessity also gives birth to invention and creativity. Things are hardly ever fully functioning first time out of the box, .. and how many people do 'self assembly' without first reading the instructions . ..  not reading the instructions doesn't mean it isn't going to work.  .  and those who follow the instructions may find errors in the assembly sheets which inhibit their progress     sk

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