Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[ramset]

Void
When I said there are no secrets ,I meant regarding the "how its done"....

performance secrets are another issue .

[Void]

Void
When I said there are no secrets ,I meant regarding the "how its done"....
performance secrets are another issue .

I think we may agree then.
All the best...

[MileHigh]

Gentlemen:

I have looked at the presentation by Clarence and I have covered issues that are very obvious that seemingly you guys don't want to address.  Many of them are very obvious:

1.  What could the neutral wire looped around the captor secondary possibly do?
2.  There is no such thing as a "geomagnetic hot spot."
3.  If you actually believe that synchronous AC power comes up from the ground then the output of the system has to be higher than 120 VAC.
4.  There is no "output" from the captor.

Look at point #3, what about Clarence's microwave reaction to an over-voltage situation?  How about something even more basic, what is the RMS output voltage when driving the microwave?  It has to be higher than 120 VAC based on the schematic.  That leads to the question, "What is the RMS AC voltage across the two sets of ground rods?"

Yes, I raised a lot of issues that you yourselves should have raised, and should be raising with Clarence.  I think of a new angle that was not covered, then I write it up and offer up some logical reasoning, and then I post it.  If it makes sense to mark up the schematic I will do so because visual aids can be very compelling.  I am not repeating myself over and over.

What about you guys?  Some of you must have a basic understanding of electricity.  How come none of you are raising these important issues yourselves?  Really, what is stopping you?

If Clarence said something like, "It works best between 8:00 AM and 2:00 PM" it looks to me like most of you would all just nod your heads like a bunch of lobotomized drones.

To be accepting and unquestioning of all sorts of things that electrically don't make sense is a total fail on your part.

For some of you to say, "Clarence doesn't owe us anything, build it yourself" is another total fail.

To suggest that "This works but meters can't measure it" is another total fail.

Void, for this business where you state, "insults and condescending comments and constant attacks" is just you putting the worst spin possible on my behaviour and it is not true.  Sure I have talked tough, and honestly sometimes Clarence deserves some tough talk.

Clarence tried one more time to answer some serious legitimate questions about run times and if he recharged his setup from the mains and you don't have to be a psychologist to see how shaky and flaky his reply was.

And this exchange clearly shows that Clarence is not ashamed to play the fool in order to avoid answering questions:

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Clarence:  I don't entertain anyone ever.
How magnanimous of you sir.

Clarence:  If you have a question to ask ask it point blank.
My question was clearly posed and I see no reason to repeat myself.

Clarence:  If you want photos - what kind about WHAT.
Again, my request for photos was likewise clear if you bothered to read it.

Clarence:  If its about "testing" , forget it. I have stated before I am out of that category . I have a unit that works and that's the category I'll stay in.
I can see clearly what category you are in sir and you are welcome to it.
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This is a sinking ship and I am pretty sure that all of you know it.  I just did what you yourselves should have done a long time ago.  I could see how Clarence was playing all of you like a fiddle and so I asked some tough, blunt questions.

You guys have to get over this "collective enabling self-brainwashing" and just as the real questions that need to be asked yourselves.

Quoting myself:  "What's wrong with dreaming about somebody that comes forward with a free energy proposition where they are credible and demonstrate competency in the subject matter, they are forthcoming and are cooperative when it comes to sharing data, and they give convincing and credible demonstrations?  Why not?"

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Speaking of pictures, has Clarence showed a picture of his grounding rod array in his backyard?

[MileHigh]

Let's look at the captor again.

Look at the attached graphic of the captor.

Time to get real you guys.  Look at it, what do you see?

You see the neutral wire that is coiled around the captor secondary and it makes no electrical contact with the captor itself.  It is not a transformer coupling either.

There is no electrical interaction between the neutral wire and the captor.

You see the L line is connected to the captor secondary.  What does that mean?  Well, if there was no connection to the captor secondary, then the captor secondary would be floating.  Since there is a connection to L, that means that the captor secondary is tied in potential to the L line, it rides the 120 VAC sine wave of the L line.

Does that have any meaning or implications because the captor secondary "hitches a ride" on the L 120 VAC potential?  The answer is NO, it has no significance.  It has no affect on anything, it's just more electrical quackery.

Do you see any output from the captor?  I don't see any output at all from the captor.  So when Clarence talks about an output from the captor, what is he talking about?

For all practical intents and purposes, the captor is just two toroidal transformers being driven by the inverter.  How much current is circulating in the secondary and if the captor looks like an AC short circuit or an AC open circuit to the inverter could only be determined if the mass confusion about how to configure the captor is resolved.  For this discussion it doesn't really matter because the captor has no output.

So you guys, what are your takes on the captor?  I am asking each and every one of you to post your opinions.  For me, the captor is just more electronics quackery that does nothing.

Please, go ahead and challenge me and explain to me how I am wrong and explain how the captor is not electronics quackery.

MileHigh