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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments - understanding field lines

Started by MileHigh, August 25, 2013, 04:11:21 PM

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MileHigh

Here is  Bruce's last comment:

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I could not care less about a video that has NOTHING to do with what I asked.  Nor will I allow the thread to be distracted. 

Nothing wrong with the discussion but none of it will help you with my question.

So...I am locking my thread to give you all a chance to get back on track.  This train has left the track a couple of pages ago...lol

In a day or so, I will unlock it with.a new question.

You all may open a new thread to discuss your concerns with any youtube video you choose!  Have fun

Cheers,

Bruce

Okay, so I will pick it up in the next posting.

MileHigh

MileHigh

So here is the clip for reference:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naaeDJLcxgs&list=WL1B63456BED3C1ACA

A few of you were fairly close but because this is very basic stuff, so I was looking for a full and complete answer.

The problem with the clip entitled "Rotary Magnetic Fields" is that it is not even showing any magnetic fields.

It's almost shocking to me that nobody stated this.  In the TPU thread you talk about magnetic fields ad nauseum and yet nobody noticed this?  Whenever you hear "magnetic fields" you are supposed to think about field lines that form closed loops.  There are no closed loop field lines in the clip therefore the simulation is not showing you magnetic fields!  If you learn the basics about electricity and magnetism this is supposed to be hard-coded into your thought processes.

The clip is showing electric field lines of force.  This also should be blatantly obvious if you understand the basics.

The clip is showing two rotating pairs, each pair consisting of a positively charged disk and a negatively charged disk.  You are seeing the pattern of the electric field lines change as the two pairs of charged disks rotate.  I say "charged disks" but they could be something else.  This is all about moving objects charged with static electricity and the resultant changing electric field lines.

The clip does not state what the physical configuration is at all.  What is clear is that you are "looking down" and seeing a planar "horizontal" slice of the electric field pattern.  They could be thin charged disks or they could be long statically charged wires that are isolated and you are looking at a "horizontal" slice of the electric field pattern.

My recommendation if you want to get more informed is this guy:  http://www.youtube.com/user/lasseviren1/videos

MileHigh

Addendum:  I should also state that this can be modeled by objects charged with static electricity or alternatively modeled by conductive objects (like long metal cylinders) that are connected to a DC potential source, like a battery or a power suppy.  It's important to state that if the long cylinders are connected to a DC potential source that no current is flowing.  So even though the long metal cylinders are connected to a DC potential source, with no current flow the rotating setup is electrically "static" also.

MileHigh

Just a little follow-up on Bruce's comment:

QuoteIn a day or so, I will unlock it with.a new question.

So far Bruce your questions have been so general and without specifics that they border on the ridiculous.

Two rotating magnetic fields?  Where?  What produces them?  What is their orientation?  Do they turn at the same speed?  And on and on and on.

Bruce, my suggestion to you is to change your strategy.  Either ask reasonable questions that are comprehensible and make sense, or just make your case with the facts as you see them.

MileHigh


TinselKoala

@MH: they all look like closed loops to me. Usually when I think of Electric field "lines" I tend to think of equipotential surfaces, which of course are parallel to the charged surfaces not perpendicular. But if you plot "attraction" or "repulsion" electric field lines they look just about like magnetic field lines. Both are of course mathematical fictions, there really isn't any such thing as a "field line", electric or magnetic, just as there is no such thing as an "isobar" line in real weather, just on weather maps.