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Tinman's Rotary Transformer

Started by tim123, September 02, 2013, 03:23:33 AM

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tinman

Quote from: tim123 on September 08, 2013, 12:56:58 PM
Hi TM, we've not gained a means to OU, and that, ultimately, is why we're here. But, we have gained valuable knowledge. Life is short, we've got a lot to learn, and it's usually painful. That's just the way it is eh. You're married, I'm sure you understand... ;)
Lol-yes married for 20 year's,but thankfully still very happy in my relationship.I got one of them ! 1 in a million girls !

Anyway,there was and is something i am trying to show with this setup,and the L.A.G-and it isnt what you think. Only one person has caught on so far,and he now see's the light lol.

So i ask you this Tim-do you see anything fantastic in the RT or the L.A.G ?,Apart from it being quite efficient.
Is there anything mystical about how they accelerate under load?
In all  the other setup that show acceleration under load,have you ever asked them to remove the generating coil,and see how much P/in is drawn from the prime mover when the coil is removed?

Some times the facinating is nothing out of the ordinary.

tim123

Quote from: tinman on September 09, 2013, 03:12:58 AM
...Anyway,there was and is something i am trying to show with this setup,and the L.A.G-and it isnt what you think. Only one person has caught on so far,and he now see's the light lol.

So i ask you this Tim-do you see anything fantastic in the RT or the L.A.G ?,Apart from it being quite efficient.
Is there anything mystical about how they accelerate under load?

No mate, nothing either fantasic or mystical. But that was kinda the point - to de-mystify the effect.

I would be quite pleased if I had missed something...

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In all  the other setup that show acceleration under load,have you ever asked them to remove the generating coil,and see how much P/in is drawn from the prime mover when the coil is removed?

Some times the facinating is nothing out of the ordinary.

Well, I'm intrigued... Please elaborate.

:)
Tim

tinman

Well lets look at it like this,using pipe's and water-much the same.
We have a pump(power supply),and a preasure vessle (the RT)hooked to the pump via pipes..On that preasure vessle there is two valve's(1 our rotor and 1 the stator coil). We start the pump,with one valve open(the rotor) and the other closed(the stator coil,wich is open circuit).The pump is of the positive displacment type-no slip or cavitation.The pump delivers say 100LPM,but the open valve(rotor)can only disipate 70LPM.So the pump starts to bog down,and draw more power.
We then open the second valve(hook a load to the stator coil),and the pump speeds back up while dropping in power draw,as the second valve allows the preasure to drop in the preasure vessle-releaving the preasure right back to the pump.

My point is,all these AUL devices are doing nothing other that releaving preasure buildup within the system.
Sure the effect work's,but it will never amount to any extraordinary power gain.

What you will see in all the AUL device video's,is they always start with the generating coil in place.They then take a P/in measurement with the coil unloaded,then a P/in with the coil loaded,and a P/out from the generating coil.
Never will you see a P/in done without the generating coil in place.

What we have done here ,is give everyone a cheap way to see the effect. As you can see,the effect is real enough,but nothing out of the ordinary,and not in any means a way to gain extra energy.The RT was defently more efficient than the induction motor ,at spining that large fan blade. But who's to say a standard universal motor wouldnt be just as efficient?.

You could see this about half way through this thread,and not many people can do that. They just see something fantastic or mistical-i was one of these people a few year's back,and even today i tend to see things that just are not there some time's. But when i do,i throw it out there,and let those with greater knowledge tell me what they see.

tim123

Yes, I understand.

I found the Thane Heins thread interesting - I didn't realise there could be more than one mechanism for AUL... Gestalt's vid was really impressive - and he has some great kit.

I guess I'm still wondering about the 'efficiency rating' of that fan... Given that the RT was better, I think the standard uni-motor would outperform it by quite a margin. Was it running at it's rated voltage? I guess that feels a bit like a 'loose-end' to me... I.e. if that efficiency is correct - and the uni does 50% better - that raises a few questions... Prob not OU ones, but interesting...

tinman

Quote from: tim123 on September 09, 2013, 09:15:28 AM
Yes, I understand.

I found the Thane Heins thread interesting - I didn't realise there could be more than one mechanism for AUL... Gestalt's vid was really impressive - and he has some great kit.

I guess I'm still wondering about the 'efficiency rating' of that fan... Given that the RT was better, I think the standard uni-motor would outperform it by quite a margin. Was it running at it's rated voltage? I guess that feels a bit like a 'loose-end' to me... I.e. if that efficiency is correct - and the uni does 50% better - that raises a few questions... Prob not OU ones, but interesting...
What that test told me,was the fan motors efficiency rateing was way higher than it should be.Look at it like this-these companies say they spend millions on development to improve the efficiency of there products. And along comes a guy,with a 13 year old,well use motor from a washing machine,dose a few simple mod's in his back yard work shop,and ends up with a more efficient motor to do the same job???.
You realy have to ask,what exactly dose the R&D team do at these companies to earn there money?.
I need there job.
It almost sounds as though UFOpolotics is running the R&D crew there.